Hi Tom, Just noticed that your signature block indicated that you were at Commerce Bank of Kansas City. Just wanted to say hi and see if any of the folks that were a part of the team that I worked with when the Commerce data center were still there. I worked with Phil Harris, Ned Day, Brad Landon, and company back in 2002 when the data center was being built. There was also a fellow named Bob (can't remember his last name) that started out to be the operations manager. I really can't remember any of the other names of the folks that I came in contact with at that time. Since I left there I have landed in Nashville, TN, by way of about 5 years in PA.
I monitor this list all of the time and just thought I would say hi. Rob Jackson Rob Jackson Senior z/OS Systems Programmer Work phone: (615) 231-4998 Cell phone: (717) 226-1196 Fax (615) 886-9519 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: SUSPECT: Re: Mainframe Jobs Considered Recession Proof Anton, I think whether or not a mainframe job in the company types on your list is "recession proof" depends on the individual company. For example, I work for a bank as you can see from my signature block. My bank is a mid-size regional commercial bank (as opposed to an investment bank) that is pretty conservative and was not involved in sub-prime lending. Except for the fall out from the economy at large, it is not having problems. In fact our stock is priced about the same as it was back in March in a market where most stocks are way down. (Check stock code CBSH.) Also, we are hiring right now in all IT areas. I'm not particularly concerned about my job. What I'm trying to point out is that you can't completely generalize by industry type. Also, as what the speaker on this video was pointing out was that the current mainframe specialists are retiring and there is a need for new blood in the profession. As we all know the mainframe did not die regardless of what Bill Gates would have everyone think. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Anton Britz > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Mainframe Jobs Considered Recession Proof > > Hi, > > Depends where and for who, I suppose ? > > I am not so sure this statement applies to the following : > > a) The banking/Investment sector > b) The Car industry > c) American Express > d) The Retail sector > e) EDS/HP > f) The Re-insurance business... AIG/GENRE > g) The unknown sector that received $2 trillion of emergency loans from > American taxpayers .. Still to be named. > h) The Newspaper/Cable business > i) The Airline business > > Who is "still standing" ? > > a) Oil Companies .. but they outsourced long before they where making 1 > Billion dollars a day. Had friends that where layed off in Houston.. > Consultants > and permanent employees > b) Drug companies.. did not see them ask for "bail out" money yet but I > did > see lots of new VIAGRA adverts on the local Tv channels > c) Boeing.. Saw a TV advert they made, praising all the veteran's a day > a'go > because they need Military spending to increase. > d) Military spending in Phoenix, AZ.. How much of the budget is going to > AZ ? > > Anton > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:05:05 -0800, Edward Jaffe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >A CNBC career expert interviewed on the Today Show claims "mainframe > >computer expert" is a good, recession-proof 21st-century career choice > ... > > > >**http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26928164#26928164 > > > >-- > >Edward E Jaffe > >Phoenix Software International, Inc > >5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 > >Los Angeles, CA 90045 > >310-338-0400 x318 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ************************************************************************ ***** If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. 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