We have the same type of agreement with CA for TopSecret.  We liken it
to having a cell phone contract where you have a base price for using a
certain number of minutes per month and then get hit with a big per
minute charge if you go over that.

Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Greg Shirey
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Subcapacity price model for CA
> 
> Walter,
> 
> I can't really speak to CA's policies of course, but I can tell you
that
> we have CA-Disk (and a couple other CA products) and we send CA our
> SCRTs quarterly for billing.
> 
> Essentially, we have a "baseline" MSU level with CA and we are
invoiced
> annually based on that MSU for the year.  If the SCRT reports show we
> have exceed our MSU baseline, we are invoiced some amount per MSU over
> our base for each month we have exceeded the number.  We of course
> receive no credits for being under our baseline.
> 
> We have the option of raising our baseline ahead of time, rather than
> being billed after the fact.
> 
> So, I don't know if this was some sort of special deal for us, or
> business as usual for CA, but it is not impossible to have subcapacity
> pricing for CA-Disk.
> 
> Greg Shirey
> Ben E. Keith Co.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:27 AM
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I would like to ask your estimated opinion about the eligibility of CA
> products for Subcapacity pricing model.
> At the end of last year we had a meeting with two CA sales managers
who
> confirmed the above statement.
> Ever since, we send to CA the SCRT Report via e-mail.
> Searching the archives I also read more than once that CA products are
> eligible for the Subcapacity model,
> although I've neverread if only some products apply, or all.
> 
> A couple of days ago we received an e-mail from a third CA sales
manager
> telling us the opposite. That is,
> our products (CA-Sort, CA-1, CA-Disk) do *not* apply to this pricing
> model. ("they belong to  the 'infrastructure
> management products' group, therefore are not eligible for 'Measured
> Workload Pricing").
> 
> What leaves me without words is that something which appeared to be
> valid only 12 months ago seems
> now completelychanged.
> 
> Is there anyone who can comment on this and tell his/her experience ?
> 
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