Now that JES2 (and maybe JES3?) now support instream data-image (like SYSIN)
LRECLs greater than 80-bytes, I am curious if/when VM/RSCS instream
data-image interface will ever support the same?  

Of course, that observation/question would include any application/utility
program which also takes instream data images, considering that the LRECL
may exceed the legacy-standard of 80 bytes.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:37:00 -0600, Chris Mason <[email protected]> wrote:

>Vince
>
>Does z/OS run as a "guest machine" of your VM system?
>
>If it does, get your VM systems programmer to sort out the unit record
>devices in the directory entries of your - presumed - CMS virtual machine and
>the z/OS virtual machine so that files can be exchanged between the two in
>the time-honoured way. As you suggested, you may also have to define the
>unit record devices to z/OS and JES2.
>
>Probably my last project actually involving submitting jobs using card decks
>stacked in the card reader and impatiently standing by the printer window was
>in early 1976. With VM you just do the same thing logically with commands
>and editors/browsers.
>
>If your z/OS system and your VM system run in separate LPARs - on the same
>or different physical machines (CECs) - then you can use NJE between,
>typically, JES2 on z/OS and RSCS on VM.
>
>You can run NJE either over an IP network - a relatively recent addition
>(2005) - as an NJE transport, an SNA network or a CTC connection[1]. In the
>first case, you will need the IP product or product component to be running in
>both z/OS and VM. In the second case, you will need the SNA product or
>product component (VTAM) to be running in both z/OS and VM. In the third
>case, you will need to set up a channel-to-channel connection of the old sort
>I believe. "You pays your money and you takes your choice!" Obviously the IP
>option is using the same transport as your existing FTP and for that reason
>you will want not to bother with that one.
>
>The following document describes NJE: Network Job Entry Formats and
>Protocols, SA22-7539-02:
>
>http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HAS2A620
>
>Having indicated whether or not your systems are co resident on a VM base
>and, in the latter case, NJE, whether you prefer SNA or CTC, we can perhaps
>help you further - and perhaps worry a bit more about userids!
>
>Chris Mason
>
>[1] In days gone by, there was also binary synchronous communication (BSC)
>as an NJE transport. Unless you happen to have typically a 2701 control unit -
>of blessed memory - connected to each system with a suitable communication
>facility between them, you won't be all that interested in this option!
>
>On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:50:49 -0600, Vince Getgood
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi all, and a happy and (un)eventful new year to you all.
>>
>>One of our sysprogs has come to me with a question, and I think I know the
>>answer, but wanted to check my thinking.
>>
>>We use FTP to submit jobs to a z/OS guest from VM, but he would like to set
>>up a mechanism that does not rely on TCP/IP being available.
>>
>>It's been a loooong time since I did anything under VM, but I THINK we need
>>to define a card reader to z/OS using HCD, then point to it in JES parms [RDR
>>(1) UNIT=xxxx), and then use that from VM.
>>
>>How did I do?
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>
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