Scott,

Has your Storage Vendor ever replaced a failed or failing drive? Do you know 
where that drive is now?

I know of several customer that purchase and stored their failed drives because 
they cannot be erased using commercial software once they stop working. I also 
know of one customer that has an annual "bash and burn" session. 

A normal DASD init does not securely overwrite data on the disk drive. It is no 
longer easy to read, but neither is it completely masked. Writing over a track 
on disk is like driving over someone else's tire tracks - you never completely 
cover up the first set of tracks unless you drive over them a few times. 

Secure Erasure is built into the latest HDS controllers, or you can use 
software like the FDR/ERASE. However, that doesn’t protect data on replaced 
drives, hence the requests by customers for vendors to look at encryption of 
data at rest.

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Eric Bielefeld
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Crypto-DASD?
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I still can't see why if you have a box in your datacenter, that will never
> leave your datacenter until after its useful life is over, should be
> encrypted.  How are you going to access that data accept by the z/OS operating
> system?  That's why we have security systems.  When the box is done, and you
> sell it or scrap it, you can always initialize all the disks.
> 
> I asked my boss at P&H Mining if he wanted me to init all the disks, or if he
> just wanted to let Hitachi do the initialize they do whenever a box is sold,
> and he said just let Hitachi do it.  There was sensitive data in many files,
> but I highly doubt if anyone could have recovered any of it after it was
> initialized by Hitachi.  This was when P&H shut down z/OS for good.
> 
> I can see the value of encrypting data on PC hard drives, after all of the
> problems people have had with stolen PCs with sensitive data on them, but
> mainframe dasd?  I just can't see it, or any regulations requiring it.
> 
> Eric
> 
> --
> Eric Bielefeld
> Systems Programmer
> Washington University
> St Louis, Missouri
> 314-935-3418
> 
> ---- "Scott T. Harder" <[email protected]> wrote:

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