I thought the whole issue came out from a previous dump/restore question...

Itschak

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Itschak,
>
> I don't understand the DSS relation.
> The OP is copying real tape datasets to disk (iebgener, input=tapedsn,
> output=diskdsn), not DSS dump copies of datasets.
>
> Kees.
>
> "Itschak Mugzach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>  > Kees,
> >
> > DSS DUMP read tracks and recoveres the VTOC as a file, I believe.
> >
> > Itschak
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
> <[email protected]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin
> <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:43:20 +0300, G+D+J+ B+N%  #B+J+
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >We are in the process of copying datasets from tape to disk.
> The
> > > users
> > > > > would like to keep the same creation dates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > How is changing the date likely to influence the backup
> > > > > process?  If a backed up version with the same DSNAME
> > > > > and a more recent timestamp exists, might the backup be
> > > > > skipped?
> > > > >
> > > > > Likewise, I noticed (long ago; it may now be different)
> > > > > that when I restored a data set from a backup copy,
> > > > > it was given the timestamp of the time of the restore.
> > > > > This would seem to cause HSM to back up the data set
> > > > > needlessly at the next cycle.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose there are different timestamps in many places;
> > > > > it all depends on which one the backup utility honors.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- gil
> > >
> > > > >"Itschak Mugzach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > The kind of backup you refer to is based on the change bit (Which
> is
> > > reset
> > > > on restore). DMS Vtoc utility is a dataset by dataset update
> utility.
> > > a
> > > > physical backup &restore would solve the need to "zap" the vto and
> > > would
> > > > keep the original creation dates.
> > > >
> > > > Itschak
> > > >
> > >
> > > No, remember the OP is copying datasets from tape to disk. After the
> > > copy, the dataset has today as creation date. A physical backup and
> > > restore does not change this. He likes to change the creation date
> back
> > > to the original creation date of the dataset on tape.
> > >
> > > Kees.
> > >
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