I'd like to see bash better implemented/supported as a shell. (I'm constantly using keystrokes that I am used to in Linux that don't work in USS - best example is the arrow key to autofill dataset or path names)
Jerry Whitteridge Mainframe Engineering Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 [email protected] If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: What (More) Open Source Software for z/OS? > > On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:50:49 -0400, Tony Harminc > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >Well, Tim's original post was about "What (More) Open Source Software > >Do You Want for z/OS?". I can speak only for myself, but when I think > >of open source software, I don't mean what IBM has mostly done with > >things like the Ported Tools, which is to take open source software > >and provide OCO versions for z/OS. What I expect is ported versions > >*with source*. Without source, they're only shadows of their former > >Open Source selves, that will atrophy unless kept up to date by IBM, > >which has notably happened to a number of earlier ports to OCO. While > >IBM has unquestionably contributed a huge amount to the open source > >community, they have also done their fair share of closing off > >existing open source code. IBM has on occasion even hidden such > >activities behind the banner of open source, which leaves a > bad taste. > > > >Asking what open source software is wanted on z/OS, with the > >likelihood that it's going to arrive OCO, is really just asking what > >new function people want in z/OS. Which is a perfectly fine question, > >of course, but the answers are likely to have rather a different > >flavour. > > > >Tony H. > > I totally agree. I like the fact that IBM ported OpenSSH to > run on z/OS. But > I hate the fact that, for whatever reason, they decided to > not share the > updated source. Given the license on OpenSSH, this is > perfectly legal. But > if IBM should someday decide that they want to develop a > competing product > and discontinue maintaining OpenSSH, then I'm up a creek. > > This is, again, why I like the GPL license over other OSI > licenses. Not that > I want to start a license war here, too. > > Now, as to what I'd like in z/OS UNIX? Wow, I have a bunch of > things. I'd > like something like Linux's /proc pseudo-filesystem. It would > take a lot of > lines to detail what all I'd like. But, just as some > examples, an interface > to the SPOOL so that I can see what jobs are in the SPOOL (subject to > security). Perhaps even access their SPOOL files, if I have > appropriate > authority. An interface to the RMF information (read-only). > And, I still > want /dev/intrdr to do job submission. Yes, I have a REXX > program which > submits JCL from a file or STDIN (if no file is specified), > so piping works. > But piping uses a second process, which is not as efficient. > > -- > John > -- > John > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > "Email Firewall" made the following annotations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. ============================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
