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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Salt
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Real cost savings (was: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech 
> operative's blunder led to banking meltdown)
> 
> If a company has 100 programmers and they cost an average of 
> $50 an hour, and they use a tool like SimpList or IPT to 
> improve their productivity by 10%, they could get rid of 10 
> programmers or do 10% more work with the same number of 
> programmers. Either way, that's a very REAL cost saving of 
> ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. And if a company has 200 
> programmers they'd have a REAL cost saving of two million 
> dollars a year (and so on).

Hum, we have 4 programmers here. I don't know their real working hours. But I 
doubt we could do with less. People do insist on sleep and vacations.

> 
> Of course they'd have to deduct the cost of licensing the 
> software ($8,000 for SimpList or ? for IPT), but it's still 
> an ENORMOUS annual cost saving. And it's a very REAL cost 
> saving; i.e. one that directly affects the bottom line. On 
> top of that there's all the additional cost savings such as 
> reduced training, reduced CPU, reduced storage, reduced 
> printing, beating competitors to market, and much more (which 
> by itself more than justifies the cost of the tool).
> 
> The fact that some PHB's can't comprehend this simple math is 
> astonishing. Maybe they could 'save' even more money by 
> getting rid of ISPF and telling all the programmers to use 
> raw TSO?   ;-)
>  

Naw, as Marie Antoinette said: "Let them use vi!". You might be amazed (or 
disgusted, or sickened) at the stuff that I do on a z/OS UNIX shell prompt (via 
ssh, not TSO OMVS). I won't say more because: (1) I know it wouldn't work, and 
(2) last time I did, I got jumped all over for being a contemptible fool.

Or perhaps I could see if the RPF used under MVS by the Hercules/390 users 
would work on z/OS 1.12. At one time, I remember having a 3270 full screen 
editor called FSE which worked. And I'd see if there is a Q command for z/OS 
1.12 (from CBT).

> Dave Salt

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