I think the problem is that in z/OS there is no "one" way of notification (I know you are asking for one). There are at least 2 (3 if you count z) commands to "stop an application", "P" and ,technically "F" I know F is usually modify but it is also used as stop. All the applications would have to be re-written. An interface would have to be created (again programs would have to be altered and or re- written). I am not against it per se it would be a few years to implement I am sure. Plus there is an issue of timing on how things happen. I smell an ugly up rising.

Ed

On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Scott Ford wrote:

Gil,

I am with you and zMan what's so difficult about an orderly shutdown on OMVS and z/os address spaces..z/Pdt has vtamappl, everything shutdown fine...

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0400, zMan wrote:

Some years ago, I suggested in MVS-OE that MVS shutdown should
send SIGTERM to all dubbed processes so that processes coded to
UNIX conventions could perform orderly shutdown.  The suggestion
was not well received.

Can you elaborate? Why would orderly shutdown not be A Good Thing?

"They" didn't say. Too UNIXy for them. But I'll conjecture: Many address
spaces get dubbed nowadays by incidental use of UNIX services such as
TCP/IP. The default action for SIGTERM if a process doesn't handle it is that the process is terminated. This would be unwelcomed by a process that was waiting rather for a legacy MODIFY command to shut itself down.

-- gil

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