I know we're all dumping on Auditors. Mostly correctly, IMO, based on past 
experience (due to their arrogance). But the ultimate problem is likely 
management. Instead of having fully documented company standards and 
procedures; giving them to the auditor; and telling them to "validate that IT 
is following these requirements"; they likely just say something vague like 
"audit IT according to generally accepted IT standards and all applicable legal 
requirements". (-10 points, sentence too wordy) I.e. management doesn't want to 
bother either. They just want to check off the "IT has been properly audited" 
box on some form.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clark Morris
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 3:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Service policies on other platforms Re: Auditors 
> Don't Know Squat!
> 
> On 3 Aug 2012 13:18:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
> 
> >In <[email protected]>, on
> >08/02/2012
> >   at 02:11 PM, zOSdude <[email protected]> said:
> >
> >>Our auditors (Feds) say we need to apply all new PTF's 
> within 30 days
> >>of availability. 
> >
> >Ask them for documentation of the requirement, explaining 
> the probable
> >impact on system security and stability, with a cc to their
> >management. If you're military, try to get DISA involved.
> 
> Of interest to me and maybe others is what is the policy for applying
> Microsoft, Linux, Unix and other operating system fixes to servers in
> most organizations?  Does this differ from the policies for desktops
> and laptops for the organization?  Is there a migration between server
> environments, system test or equivalent to development to production?
> I know at home I normally end up applying all fixes to my Windows
> systems although I normally review them before doing the service
> install.
> 
> Clark Morris
> 
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