They (auditors) are right. Apply immediately ! (no I kid.....)
There are no valid arguments to convey such people to adopt another mindset. As one of my great mentors once told me : "Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience" Good luck there! (If you need someone to help you out writing a sane 'maintanance strategy' to keep idiots like this at bay, let me know :)) On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Amen bro I am a mainframe believer for long time > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > > On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:19 AM, Thomas Kern <tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On 8/7/2012 21:20, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> At 10:17 +0000 on 08/07/2012, Pearce, Colin E wrote about Re: Auditors > Don't Know Squat!: > >> > >>> Ask the Auditors if they will help you fill out all the APARs and > collect the supporting > >>> documents > >> > >> IMO: Any Auditor who wants to tell me how to do my job (as opposed to > just critiquing how > >> I do it) is not qualified to do so UNLESS he can do my job in the first > place. > > > > The worst part about all of these auditors, is that most of us who are > being edged out of > > jobs because of declining mainframe usage can be better auditors than > all of those that > > have visited me in my 36 years of mainframe work, BUT our bosses and the > auditors' bosses > > just don't think mainframe dinosaurs know anything about computing, data > integrity, > > information security. > > > > Some one who has never touched anything more than a windows workstation > always knows more > > than we do. > > > > /Tom Kern > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN