On 1 Sep 2012 08:04:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >[email protected] (R.S.) writes: >> No, with *one* blade cabinet of Dell+Windows. HW cost comparable to >> spare HMC and two OSA cards. > >as mentioned before: > >max. configured z196 with 80 processors is rated at 50BIPs and goes for >$28M ($350,000/processor, $560,000/BIPS, 624MIPS/processor)
How much work can that z196 do compared with the 4829/hr Amazon cloud you mentioned? Given the great disparity between costs per instruction execution, on reading these posts it would seem that getting to a secure, fault tolerant operating system on blade clusters would be highly cost effective and that all new work should be moved to that environment. Clark Morris > >IBM has base list price of $1815 for e5-2600 blade. There are various >processor configurations for e5-2600 (two socket-chip, >8processors/socket-chip, 16processors) ... but some are benchmarked at >527BIPS ... using IBM base price, $113.44/processor, $3.44/BIPS, >33BIPS/processor. Large cloud operator claims of being able to assemble >blades at 1/3rd cost of brand name blades potentially has it down to >$1.14/BIPS. > >and from recent thread in "Greater IBM" ... discussion of some of the >scaleup/cost issues >http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#47 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve >the Digital World > >comparing this on-demand supercomputer subset carved out >of amazon cloud $4829/hr for 51,132 cores >http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/4829-per-hour-supercomputer-built-on-amazon-cloud-to-fuel-cancer-research > >with number of z196s for equivalent BIPS aka 33,801 z196 80 processor >machines. the $4829/hr works out to $48M/annum ... less than the $56M >cost of two z196s. The cost of 33,801 z196 comes out to around trillion >dollars. From yesterday, analysis that IBM sells $5.25M in mainframe >software, services and storage for every million in mainframe sales >... making cost of 33,801 z196 closer to $6.25trillion (with software, >services, and storage) ... doesn't include building, staff, power, >cooling, taxes, etc (which would be included in an amazon cloud costs). > >this has 1.8kW for z196 MCM >http://www.elektor.com/news/ibm-z196-microprocessor-boasts-5-2-ghz-clock-rate.1521411.lynkx >.. with 4 MCMs in fully configured or 7.2kW ... just for the MCMs. Fully >loaded z196 is 31.7kW >http://www-ti.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/~spruth/edumirror/xx095.pdf > >33,801 z196 @31.7kW is then 1,071,491kw or 1,071MW not counting power >for cooling, disks and other peripherals. This has 18.7kW for DS8800 >http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/at/resources/systems_at_webkonferenzen_ibm_ds8800.pdf > >at one DS8800 per z196, that would bring it up to 50.4kW and for 33,801 >systems would be 1703570kW or 1704MW. > >Even at 5cents per kwh, just electrical bill would be $85,179/hr >compared to $4829/hr for fully loaded price for on-demand >supercomputer subset of Amazon cloud. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
