Don, What's really disconcerting is that the z/OS knowledge base is disappearing. JVM isn't the end all in languages. I write a lot of an gauges, including C. Yes, I am a big Linux fan
Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Don Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > For now, IBM has legacy customers over a barrel and can demand a high price > for the mainframe hardware and operating systems. But for developers of new > apps, they can choose a different platform, esp. if they believe that their > customers will purchase whatever platform it takes to run them. I think > eventually (i.e., over decades) legacy applications will be replaced with > newer slicker apps that don't require IBM's big iron. Hmm, in the decades > to come, will IBM be able to continue to command a high price for its big > iron? Will employees who work with big iron continue to be well paid? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Scott Ford >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:04 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points >> >> Tony, >> >> Whoever said IBM was price competitive, they are re only game in town , >> as far as big iron goes >> >> Scott ford >> www.identityforge.com >> >> Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and >> I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Tony Harminc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 30 January 2013 13:34, Edward Jaffe <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for "software >> development" >>>>> activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not >> "production >>>>> work". I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users logging >>>>> onto CICS and doing production work which "runs the business". I >> guess >>>>> they could do QA testing. >>>> >>>> >>>> zPDT is for software developers only. RD&T (based on exactly the >> same >>>> technology) is for customers. >>>> >>>> http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/products/devtest/systemz/ >>> >>> Sure, but for customers to do development and testing only. >> Absolutely >>> no production, or even production-like builds. Still no low-end zArch >>> machines for a small company to run prod on. >>> >>> Tony H. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- >> MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
