Big Iron...bad label... This is why Zseries...z/OS--z/VM--Linux...as for expensive? ...TCO...vs many many many of other platform(s) Lic fees so on..maint. as like anything else .. depending on your needs depends on the size of the Hardware you may need...as for the size.. you can always grow when you have to without reinstalling the world..including staffing..
as for M/Fers being well paid..sort of....but there are not as many of us required at that site for support. other factors as well...security..DR.. as for newer slicker apps >> again...this all can be performed on the M/F as well.. and customers are not over a barrel...the alternatives you lead to are there on the Zseries..negative's mention for the mainframe?---Zseries? -- sorry to say is bogus. Too many Companies today see the advantages and are taking them. as for high price you mention..depending on the vendor yes..but there are alternatives>> even IBM.. Linux being the high points these days has made the Zseries even more of a $$ savings opportunity . others can add to this list..done pitching... From: Don Williams <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 01/30/2013 03:09 PM Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> For now, IBM has legacy customers over a barrel and can demand a high price for the mainframe hardware and operating systems. But for developers of new apps, they can choose a different platform, esp. if they believe that their customers will purchase whatever platform it takes to run them. I think eventually (i.e., over decades) legacy applications will be replaced with newer slicker apps that don't require IBM's big iron. Hmm, in the decades to come, will IBM be able to continue to command a high price for its big iron? Will employees who work with big iron continue to be well paid? > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points > > Tony, > > Whoever said IBM was price competitive, they are re only game in town , > as far as big iron goes > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > > Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and > I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb > > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Tony Harminc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 30 January 2013 13:34, Edward Jaffe <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote: > >>> > >>>> From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for "software > development" > >>> activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not > "production > >>> work". I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users logging > >>> onto CICS and doing production work which "runs the business". I > guess > >>> they could do QA testing. > >> > >> > >> zPDT is for software developers only. RD&T (based on exactly the > same > >> technology) is for customers. > >> > >> http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/products/devtest/systemz/ > > > > Sure, but for customers to do development and testing only. > Absolutely > > no production, or even production-like builds. Still no low-end zArch > > machines for a small company to run prod on. > > > > Tony H. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- > MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
