I agree. Too few z/OS courses in the universities over the past 20+ years.
Like languages, each platform has it advantages and disadvantages. People should use the most appropriate language, platform, etc. for each situation in order to provide the best solution. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points > > Don, > > What's really disconcerting is that the z/OS knowledge base is > disappearing. JVM isn't the end all in languages. I write a lot of an > gauges, including C. Yes, I am a big Linux fan > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > > Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and > I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb > > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Don Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For now, IBM has legacy customers over a barrel and can demand a high > price > > for the mainframe hardware and operating systems. But for developers > of new > > apps, they can choose a different platform, esp. if they believe that > their > > customers will purchase whatever platform it takes to run them. I > think > > eventually (i.e., over decades) legacy applications will be replaced > with > > newer slicker apps that don't require IBM's big iron. Hmm, in the > decades > > to come, will IBM be able to continue to command a high price for its > big > > iron? Will employees who work with big iron continue to be well > paid? > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- > [email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Scott Ford > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:04 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points > >> > >> Tony, > >> > >> Whoever said IBM was price competitive, they are re only game in > town , > >> as far as big iron goes > >> > >> Scott ford > >> www.identityforge.com > >> > >> Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and > >> I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb > >> > >> > >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Tony Harminc <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> On 30 January 2013 13:34, Edward Jaffe > <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for "software > >> development" > >>>>> activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not > >> "production > >>>>> work". I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users > logging > >>>>> onto CICS and doing production work which "runs the business". I > >> guess > >>>>> they could do QA testing. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> zPDT is for software developers only. RD&T (based on exactly the > >> same > >>>> technology) is for customers. > >>>> > >>>> http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/products/devtest/systemz/ > >>> > >>> Sure, but for customers to do development and testing only. > >> Absolutely > >>> no production, or even production-like builds. Still no low-end > zArch > >>> machines for a small company to run prod on. > >>> > >>> Tony H. > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >> - > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- > >> MAIN > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- > MAIN > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM- > MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
