I would like to return to the "selling point" issue. I stated that there are many technologies that run better outside the mainframe like Cobol and sort. Don't take my word, ask Gartner's Dale Vecchio. have a look at this video on http://www.platformmodernization.org/Pages/about.asp
Itschak On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Steve Thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > From: Edward Jaffe <[email protected]> > Date: 01/31/2013 11:17 AM > > > > On 1/31/2013 8:40 AM, Don Williams wrote: > > Does this mean a M/F developer needs to have deep pockets to be > successful? > > Depends on your definition of "deep". Last I checked it was $500/month for > > fully-supported remote development out of Dallas. > > --------- > Let's play devil's advocate. > > You have decided that you want to develop a product for z/OS. If you do > not develop it in Java, or c/C++, then how do you do your development in > your own sandbox? This, so that you only need, perhaps six months of > fixing the rough spots on an actual z/OS system. > > You can't get CICS in a Herc environment running MVS 3.8J (O now?). > > Let's say that you have FJ COBOL. So you set the options to be for > COBOL-II. Now you do all your development that you can. But wait, you need > ISPF at a minimum to drive terminals. Can't do that on a Herc system. Come > to think of it, FJ COBOL will not generate for the Herc environment. So > that option is gone too. > > One programmer, who has roughed out a system, using VSAM or DB2, has, for > the sake of argument, 2-3 man years of coding to do with debugging. So we > will say 3 to include documenting and testing. > > US$500 * 12 * 3 = US$19,500 Just for the system out of Dallas. > > What will be the cost of documenting your software, and who will do it at > what cost? (manual printing or CD/DVD commercial quality stuff). > > How much do you have to have in pocket to handle 3 years of start up > expenses? Would that be somewhere around $200K? > > Now, you need a paying client. What are your costs to get that first > client and get them to production and you into maint mode and not > development? How many clients do you need before you are covering your > ongoing US$500/mo. and all of your start up costs, so that you have a > positive cash flow? > > Using your own home systems, how long does it take you to develop > something in c/C++ .net, Java, etc. and be able to sell it? > > For a one "man" startup, $200K is a lot of money. BTDT. And the business I > had was NOT in IT. > > Regards, > Steve Thompson > > Opinions expressed by this poster do not necessarily reflect those of > poster's employer. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
