Dana, Thank you, my thoughts exactly. When I learned VM/SP and CMS had a manager make me learn the basic commands first then write Execs.
Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Dana Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:10:06 -0600, Ed Gould <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dana: >> >> About 15 years ago I was in a IBM class (all sysprogs). The >> instructor came out and said it is IBM's hope to get rid of system >> programmers. That tells you a lot from IBM's POV. I have distrusted >> IBM ever since. >> >> Ed > > IBM's plans as far as expensive sysprogs is concerned is very obvious. Look > at the inordinate effort ($$) they are putting into zOSMF in order to make > basic systems tasks more palletable to less experienced sysprogs. I hope > they keep the gui facilities completely optional, and can be used if/when > needed, instead of falling into the trap they have created with managing IBM > i systems. On an i system (don't get me started on that choice of a name for > an operating system....) there is available 5250 emulation (green screen) > and at least 2 flavors of gui's for performing management tasks. The > trouble is that not *all* functions can be performed from a 5250 session. > Conversely not all functions can be executed from any one of the gui's > either. This creates a dog's dinner of interfaces required to perform all > the duties needed to be an admin on an i system. > > Dana > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
