Does anybody have a real 3270 they can test it on? FWIW, it works on TSPF, and Tritus was extremely serious about compatability.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rob Scott [rsc...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 3:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command I have just tested the ISRTSO (and ISRTSOA) panels in ISPF 7.2 and they both fail the first issue (SKIP) when shown in a POPUP (this is expected). They both fail the second issue (INSERT/EOF) no matter if POPUP or not. I think this leaves a wide-screen only solution the most likely method of solving this, which is not ideal but better than nothing. Rob Scott Rocket Software From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 30 November 2020 22:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command EXTERNAL EMAIL On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 08:14:06 +1100, Attila Fogarasi wrote: >SKIP(ON) is the ISPF panel field attribute that causes automatic skip to >next field when the cursor reaches the end of a field (SKIP(OFF) is the >default). I'm not 100% sure about your second question (insert spanning > Not needed. >fields) but AFAIK insert is limited to a single field (it certainly was in >the original hardware). Normally a scrollable area would be used instead >of 2 fields when they are actually 1 field logically. Not sure that all >3270 emulators work correctly with the fancier data streams (or rather, >I've run into lots of problems doing this). > IBM seems determined to inconvenience users of wide screens. The "ISPF Command Shell panel (ISRTSO)" (see illustration): https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.f54u200/chap9.htm<https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.f54u200/chap9.htm> ... provides a single field covering 3 lines on an 80-column screen so insertion simply works up to the size of the field. This answers Rob's concern; Yes, it's possible. On a wider screen, the panel is formatted in a "pillarbox" (GIYF) and insertion works only within a single line. When I ranted about this (on ISPF-L?) experts advised me, "Oh you need ISRTSOA": https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.f54pc00/isppc115.htm<https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.f54pc00/isppc115.htm> ... Hmmm. Configuration option; not available to mere mortal users. But I copied ISRTSOA into my private ISPPLIB and renamed it. All better. ISPF 3.17 suffers a similar misdesign in its entry panel with wide screens for a poor reason. >On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:29 AM Rob Scott wrote: > >> In your example, assuming that the input field spans two lines : >> >> (1) When the user starts to type on the first line and gets to the end of >> the input field in the line, is the input skipped to the next line? >> >> (2) If there is existing data on the second line and the user attempts to >> insert data on the first line, does the data on the second line shift to >> accommodate the inserted bytes. >> >> If both the above are satisfied, then I would doff my cap to you and >> implement a solution based on that in the next release. -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu<mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ================================ Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy ================================ This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
