Hi Bob,
Not allowing people to run z/OS on Intel may be a larger mistake.
Regards,
David
On 2021-10-12 10:36, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:
The biggest mistake "HAL" made was dissolving PSRs and SEs. They often
provided the marketing folks with potential sales leads way before the
manglers knew they needed stuff because the worker bees would ask for
information about future HW and SW in advance of speaking to the higher
ups! Speaking from personal experience on *both sides* of that fence.
Bob
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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: System Programmer Titles
I was a Systems Engineer (with progressive title levels) for 30 years
(starting in 1966) with you-know-who, so I became a little curious about
the exact meaning of the title. Over the years I discovered there was
really no specific meaning to it. I am an electrical engineer but no one
ever checked on that as a condition for the title. Other Systems Engineers
(for the same BIG company) had various backgrounds and most were not
Engineers in a University sense or license sense. We were usually known as
SEs within the industry.
As a general view (at that time, when the industry was younger and
different) the SEs often formed a link between the practical customer
world (meaning technical management, sysprogs, programmers, etc) and the
home company processes (software development, blue sky marketing, technical
support, etc, etc). It was a good job and, in my opinion, it is a bit
unfortunate that the particular niche has mostly disappeared. Some of us
were more on the systems programming side (myself), some a bit on the
technical hardware side (myself also, but this was not common), some on the
mostly marketing side, etc, etc. It was a slightly random mixture but
seemed to work well at the time-----but that was too many years ago!
Today, I think one can flip coins to decide on a particular meaning for
the title.
Bill Ogden
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