The devil is in the details. If the TOS allow you to build your own system, 
then you should be able to do everything at Dallas that you can do on a ZD&T. 
Whether that is an attractive option depends on the rates.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
Charles Mills [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 2:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

For about $5K per year I find Dallas to be a more attractive proposition. Real 
z hardware and a modest amount of support. Only restriction AFAIR is "no 
production data processing."

YMMV indeed. zD&T I guess would give you unlimited CPU time and all the DASD 
you wanted to buy (you rent additional DASD at Dallas, and pay for any 
extensive CPU usage). Dallas is as many TSO or CICS users as you want, IIRC, 
but the zD&T is limited, right? At Dallas you run as a VM guest, and I suppose 
that might preclude certain system software development.

Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 11:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware

ZDNT at $120/year is be attractive for developing open source z/OS software 
attractive if the license allows it. ZD&T Personal at $5K/year is too expensive 
for that purpos, although a hypothetical ZD&T FOSS version costing more than 
ZDNT but still only a few hundred dollars would be attractive.

YMMV

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