It may not be everything I want, but IMHO it's a major improvement. It's much more affordable for HS and college students than ZD&T.Personal.
________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Pommier, Rex <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 8:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware Reading this thread it almost seems to me like "zDNT" learner's edition is an acronym for zDoNotTry. I hope I'm wrong because I want to retire some day and when I do, it would be fun to have a cheap z/OS learning system/playground to learn about all the stuff my daytime job doesn't offer me the time to do. Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Laurence Chiu Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 4:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware I used my personal email account and yet it looked like the IBM rep who emailed me back is associated with the large corporate bank that I'm currently working for even though I didn't use a work email account nor identify myself as such. And I'm not working on the mainframe side with this bank. Spoke to some colleagues about this and they said IBM knows who you are no matter what identity you use :-) On Sat, Oct 30, 2021, 12:53 AM Mark Regan <marktre...@gmail.com> wrote: > I put in my request on Oct. 21st and still have not heard back from > IBM except for the autoresponse email saying that someone from sales > will contact me. > Regards, > > Mark Regan, K8MTR > > *CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991* > *Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017* > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 5:40 AM Laurence Chiu <lch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I just received information from IBM directly on the product. > > Currently it's on a dark launch in the US only but once that has > > been sorted out it will be made available to the rest of the world by the > > end of the year. > > > > T&C's include (I was only provided an image of the T&C's and I can't > > post this here since apparently the forum strips out images. But in > > essence they are > > > > *What is it?* > > Provide an affordable ZD&T for individual enterprise developers who > > want > to > > develop z/OS skills to be part of the mainframe ecosystem and > > support > them > > in their career success > > > > *How* > > > > Offering access to ZD&T at $120/year to vetted, advanced users for > > educational purposes > > > > *Vetting Criteria* > > > > z/OS Practitioner badge and Master the Mainframe training complete > > > > OR > > > > 1-3 years of sysadmin or system programmer experience [ I would > > imagine most people on this mailing list would easily fall into this > > category > :-) ] > > > > *Targeted Segments* > > > > z/OS students and hobbyists who want a personalised zD&T for > > learning purposes and support their career success. > > > > As an aside, while most of my systems programmer experience has > > been in DB2, IMS and VM, I would like to dabble in CICS or if they > > offer it, > look > > at parallel sysplex. It's not my current day job and hasn't been for > > many moons so it would be great to get back into into for kicks > > (CICS :-) ) > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 6:41 AM Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The T's&C's explicitly state that it is to be used for learning > > > and may NOT be used for any kind of development - including Open Source. > > > > > > I've confirmed that with two sources. > > > > > > Disappointing.... ☹ > > > > > > > > > Lionel B. 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