While z/OSMF may be a step backward in some regards, that does not mean that 
all new tools are bad. I for one am not about to complain that IMAPTFLE is 
gone; SMP is far better. 

Tools like Docker are already part of the ecosystem, and it behooves IBM to 
acknowledge them. I just wish that they would acknowledge their abandoned child 
OREXX.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Tom 
Longfellow [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 9:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/OS 2.5 install with z/OSMF

The replies to my recent post are adding to my arguments.

Adding dozens of new ways to get something to do actual work does not get final 
goals done faster.   The actual work that the users (remember them) need do not 
care how cleverly the software is installed.   They just want it now (or 
yesterday) .  Sooner or later the rubber has to meet the road.

Docker, noDocker, Anaconda, miniconda, rpm, and all the many items seen in the 
replies just look to me like a series of new learning curves that stand between 
and getting the job done.     It becomes a learning/training nightmare when you 
are getting paid for results.

I am reminded of  reading job openings where they were looking for 10 years of 
experience in a software that has only been available for 2 years.    If you 
really wanted the job you had to find a polite way to point out their lack of 
knowledge.

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