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This whole discussion reminds me of the C-19 vaccine mandate.

Yu Vill get da (z/OSMF)  vaccine or else!

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On 1/12/21 1:55 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I just wish that they would acknowledge their abandoned child OREXX.

IBM certainly haven't abandoned ooRexx. It's my understanding that Rick McGuire 
works on it almost full time. The mailing lists still get quite a bit of 
traffic and the Github repo shows recent commit activity. If you're referring 
the fact that ooRexx hasn't been ported to z/OS then unfortunately I don't see 
IBM committing resources to a language in decline. It makes much more sense to 
port modern languages like Go, Python and runtimes like Node.js. Docker is 
going to be important for z/OS and it's written in Go so it's a no-brainer. 
We've been beta testing IBMs new clang LLVM z/OS port which is exciting in the 
fact that LLVM can be used to build a plethora of different languages. I 
particularly like Julia which has a similar syntax to Lua but can be strongly 
typed and is compiled and bench-tests show it runs at near C speeds.

As we are discussing z/OSMF and REXX I thought I would mention the Z Open 
Editor plugin [1] for the VS Code editor. This includes the REXX LSP plugin [2] 
written by Broadcom which supports auto-completion, syntax checking as you type 
and symbol outlines. The COBOL and HLASM plugins are even better. It uses the 
Zowe CLI [3] to interact with the z/OSMF REST APIs for the Zowe System explorer 
[4]. It wasn't that long ago that you would have to pay for the likes or RDz to 
get this functionality but now it's free and uses cutting edge tools. The Zowe 
CLI does not have a dependency on Zowe being installed on the back-end.
It's a client API and the only requirement is Node.js/NPM on your PC.
The salient point is that z/OSMF is not just for just for GUI applications. The 
APIs are being used to build strategic eco-systems to modernize z/OS for new 
hires that didn't grow up using TSO/ISPF.

Of course, this new tooling is mainly targeted at the new generation of 
mainframers and not at folks who don't like learning curves. But there is a lot 
of value to be had if you don't mind trying new things. The Zowe explorer VS 
Code extension has 46K downloads so it's quite popular.
Although when you compare that to 46M for Python [5] you can appreciate why IBM 
ported Python to z/OS :)

[1] 
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