https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/what-caused-the-amazon-internet-outage/507-94219aa6-f510-4e3d-a2b5-5c301a257152

"A problem with Amazon Web Services yesterday caused issues with services
such as Disney+ and Venmo for most of the day. Robotic vacuum cleaners
halted in their tracks
<https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/major-outage-amazon-web-services/507-cb381148-3576-4976-8638-98ee86292fa6>.
Doorbell cameras stopped watching for package thieves, though some of those
deliveries were canceled anyway. Netflix and Disney movies got interrupted
and The Associated Press <https://apnews.com/> had trouble publishing the
news."

Regards,

Mark Regan, K8MTR, EN80tg
CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1979 active; 1979-1991, reserves; including two
years with the Ohio Air National Guard)
Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017 (z/OS Network Software Consultant)
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 4:07 PM Bill Johnson <
[email protected]> wrote:

> LOLOLOLOL, I love when the so called “experts” are proven wrong.
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> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021, 4:04 PM, patrickfalcone7 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hope you are well. FWIW I've seem mics for sometime but mostly under
> favorable conditions. But lately have found mics on average from under 5 on
> avg. mills.with somewhat newer array technology on < z15 CPCs.Sent from my
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> -------- Original message --------From: Seymour J Metz <[email protected]>
> Date: 12/8/21  9:05 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject:
> Re: AWS is down. On what machine do you complete I/O in a
> microsecond?--Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metzhttp://
> mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3________________________________________From: IBM
> Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Bill
> Johnson [[email protected]]Sent: Wednesday,
> December 8, 2021 7:31 AMTo: [email protected]: Re: AWS is
> down.I see someone who has never worked in health care where the mainframe
> processes each drug prescribed and checks for drug interactions in a
> microsecond. Yes, people die if the mainframe isn’t available. It’s also
> why there are plenty of pharmacies open 24 hours and why hospitals have
> pharmacies.Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhoneOn Wednesday, December 8, 2021,
> 1:33 AM, kekronbekron <[email protected]>
> wrote:Critical infra in some places, sure, not everyone is denying that.At
> the moment of urgent need, do people really buy something and wait for MF
> to finish processing, for them to be then allowed to continue
> breathing?What happened to the interim stages (logstics etc).It sounds as
> though failure to buy/order something immediately is going to lead to their
> death... is what's being said.Sounds pretty privileged to me.It also sounds
> like it's assumed that mainframes will last 500 years, no?Did the world not
> exist before 1960s?Did people automatically die before 1960s because they
> didn't have MF?Are people and organizations not allowed to be wrong (to
> their own detriment), etc.Are we sure that 100% of all information out
> there is truth, apart from this announcement that AWS wants to replace
> MF?We can all like MF, but don't need to act like it's the sole saviour of
> humanity.Again that means that all technology that evolved since then is a
> complete waste of time and people's efforts.Sounds pretty delusional to
> me... just to convey that MFs are good servers.- KB‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐On Wednesday, December 8th, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Bill Johnson <
> [email protected]> wrote:> AWS had a larger
> & longer outage today, than all the outages on the mainframes I’ve worked
> on in the last 30 years. Much worse. Yet, some here think AWS is going to
> replace the mainframe for critical applications like banking, health care,
> big retail, and insurance. Plus, the mainframe has had plenty of negative
> posts here in the decades I’ve been involved. Nobody dies when Netflix
> isn’t available. (One of the hits from today) people can and do die if the
> drugs they need aren’t available because the computer system is down.>>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 11:01 PM,
> kekronbekron [email protected] wrote:>> Not
> at anybody in particular:>> Do we have to make snide remarks because
> someone else had an outage?>> Don't we remember the times when things on
> the mainframe itself went south?>> Has every site's MF env. been 100%
> available through all these decades?>> Is it wrong to fail sometimes?>> Is
> this the attitude with which you'd like to retire, holding onto precious
> remarks and burning the path behind you as you leave?>> What does that say
> about one's mentality and outlook in life?>> -  KB>>    ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original
> Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐>>    On Wednesday, December 8th, 2021 at 3:54 AM, Ronald
> Wells [email protected] wrote:>> > Pretty
> pic/web pages make the $$ did you not get the memo> >> > -----Original
> Message-----> >> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [email protected] On Behalf Of John McKown> >> > Sent: Tuesday,
> December 7, 2021 2:57 PM> >> > To: [email protected]> >> >
> Subject: Re: AWS is down.> >> > ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION **> >> >
> Oh, but they advertise that they can replace mainframe. Well, maybe the
> processing. But not the on site reliability. Of course, for WFH, the
> internet is the week point. And, most likely, also the home equipment. I
> just had to reboot my Windows PC at home because it decided to stop talking
> to my internet router.> >> > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 12:49 Bill Johnson <
> [email protected]> wrote:> >> > > Amazon Web
> Services is down. I can’t get to my pictures. Glad we don’t> > >> > > have
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