that helps Greatly thanks so much Peter, I was thinking a major project to rework the entire process.

unfortunately our Endeavor admin has very little mainframe or Endeavor experience :(

thanks again

Carmen

On 1/11/2022 9:34 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Carmen,

Not *necessary* but still usable.  We are V6 also (6.2, not 6.3 yet), and with 
4.2 going off support this year management made a strong push to prevent 4.2 
modules (changes or additions) from going into production on a going-forward 
basis.  OTOH, we still have many production programs that haven't changed in a 
long time that were originally compiled with V3 running just fine.

Our DB2 and CICS SDLC process (in-house, not ISV product) still uses the pre-compilers 
for V6.2 translations without any problems.  If your Endeavor process to translate DB2 
and/or CICS programs use the pre-compilers, they will continue to work as before.  If it 
ain't broke, there's no urgent need to "fix" it.

One slight drawback of the "built-in" DB2 and CICS translation is that your 
COBOL listing shows only the original SQL or EXEC CICS statements, not the underlying 
MOVE's and CALL's that implement them (you have to use the LIST compiler option to see 
the pseudo-assembler equivalent).  Some programmers may call that an improvement, some 
won't.

I'm not aware of any significant or documented program runtime performance benefit from 
using the "built-in" translators, though there may be compile-job efficiency to 
be gained (one step instead of several).

HTH

Peter

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Well I just inherited COBOL support and our programmers have been trying to 
debug an issue with CICS COBOL, seems Ent COBOL V4 was still being used in CICS 
TS 5.4. the tool used is Endeavor, long story short, V6 was being tested in 
some processes but never updated in others.
my question is mostly a sanity check, from what I've read the DB2 pre compiler 
and the CICS translators are no longer needed, COBOL parms and options are now 
used if these are DB2 or CICS programs ?
this is valid ?
thanks Carmen
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