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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 3:52 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> > all RSU levels are the same
>
> No. The HOLDDATA change multiple times between levels.
>
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> Thanks David,
>
>
>    1. Even if you are right about the version numbers, we still have 5
>    different versions here.
>    2. Your claim about the sub-version is interesting. So Z/OS 2.4, just
>    fir example, all RSU levels are the same. I don't think so, and so do
> the
>    NVD administrators. Read the range of the affected versions. it includes
>    all three levels.
>    3. I am sure your company does a great job with versioning.
>    4. The major issue with open source is that there is no formal life
>    cycle. Usually it is a vendor product that you need to completely
> upgrade
>    instead of installing a PTF. See your offering such as BASH. It is
>    downloaded and installed. no service exists. Do you expect the user to
>    check every day if there is a new version?
>
> ITschak
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 17/1/22 10:34 pm, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We took the time to dive into the wider issue of open source and z/os.
> > USS
> > > is a scary jungle!
> >
> > Only to the ignorant.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Without many details on the how, we discovered that on our z/os 2.3
> there
> > > are 19 (!) different versions of Apache Ant: 1.5.3, 1.6.2, 1.6.5,
> 1.7.0,
> > > 1.7.1, 1.8.0, 1.8.1, 1.8.2, 1.8.2, 1.8.2, 1.8.3 ,1.8.4, 1.9.0, 1.9.2,
> > 1.9.3
> > > ,1.9.4, 1.9.6 ,1.9.7, 1.9.8 used by 1000 plus jar files and sharing 4
> > CVEs.
> >
> > I take it you don't understand the concept of semantic versioning. Those
> > are not all different versions, the last digit is the patch. We do this
> > in our (mainframe) products too.
> > In fact, we go further and add the Git commit hash to the version
> > message so we can track the version the customer is running down to a
> > line of code.
> >
> > Apache Ant is a build system and not part of a runtime. I don't share
> > your concerns.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Nice divers... and as others may say "What you don't know doesn't hurt
> > you".
> > >
> > > ITschak
> > >
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