Maybe it is hard to understand for you, so I'll try to explain again: Businesses with local customers and employees want to make things comfortable and convenient for them. Some of those customers and employees may not even know the Roman alphabet. Yes, if they have foreign customers then their correspondence may use other scripts, but those customers would not normally be dealing with local files and would not normally be concerned with their names. Transliterations are often dicey at best.
As for e-mail, why has IETF bothered to issue RFCs 5335, 5336, 6530, 6533 if it is a nonissue? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names Maybe it is hard to understand for you, so I'll try to explain again: Yes, I use Polish names in Poland. However my name is Radosław - note the Ł character. But my signature is "Radoslaw". Why? For you. For you, and for those who does not know Polish. Vast majority of Hebrew, Russian, Bulgarian, Greek, etc. names are also somehow "translated" (or transliterated) to latin. I mean email, etc. My company email id contains radoslaw.skorupka - again no polish characters. And my datasets names are also without ĄĆĘŁŃÓŚŹŻ. Datasets and filenames. Why? Just for convenience. Could it be a problem? Author of the thread has such problem. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 28.01.2022 o 01:57, Seymour J Metz pisze: > Do you use Polish names in Poland? Do they use French names in France? Why > wouldn't somebody use their native language for file names? > > The rest of the world is, or is rapidly becoming, Unicode. Expecting users to > confine their file names to an 8-bit code page is an exercise in futility. > > I'm comfortable with EBCDIC, but outsize of z it's becoming increasingly more > irrelevant. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of > Radoslaw Skorupka [[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 5:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names > > W dniu 27.01.2022 o 22:01, Paul Gilmartin pisze: >> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:22:02 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>> ... >>> Hebrew is much harder (for computers) than "latin-like" alphabets like >>> Polish, Spanish, German, etc. >>> >> Harder only for obsolete computers. > No, it's harder for users. > I did use (play with) very strange characters in PC-DOS, 30+ years ago. > I did play with Hebrew Windows 3.1, etc. > However I see no technical reason to use such names in production. > Your new_and_shining computer can manage any character, but maybe > someone has older terminal or connects from > also_new_and_shining_BUT_DIFFERENT computer and then my Ł would become ⁴ > or so. > > BTW: In the very old days my master thesis was crippled by slightly > different versions of MS Word. ł was changed to 3 upper index. It > happened in math formulas only. And the ł was in lower index. Inception... > Of course it was data, not filename. The filename was in 8.3 format. > > Nevermind, this is off-topic. > My question was WHY? Why bother with non-typical names? What is the > rationale behind? > As far as I know, no one tries to use Hebrew or Cyrillic characters in > dataset or member names. Even no lowercase. > And of course it caused some troubles - that's why we see this thread on > the list. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
