The use of leased machines to develop commercial software is certainly legal. However, for the scenario that you described the use of zPDT *is* in the picture, and is a contract violation. The violation is not in the use of the leased machine, but in the copying of the source code with the intention of selling the object code.
As to how IBM will enforce it, that's not my dog, but I won't be a guinea pig for that inquiry. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 10:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/PDT Well, how can it be enforced? Let's assume someone is working on some software, called XYZ. He's working on zPDT emulated machine. Finally he compiles his source code on some real hardware, leased for one day. Or even not leased, but he is allowed to use the machine for his own work. Allowed means some company which owns the machine agreed. I think it is legal to use leased machine for such purpose. The use of zPDT is not on the picture. Disclaimer: Don't kill messenger. The above is just a question. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 25.03.2022 o 17:19, Matt Hogstrom pisze: > IIRC you can’t sell any artifacts (binaries and such) as they must be built > on real IBM Z hardware. Perhaps this has changed but it was a terms and > condition way to ensure that real hardware is used for real products. > > > Matt Hogstrom > > > > "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” > - Hanlon’s Razor > >> On Mar 25, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Ed Jaffe <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 3/25/2022 8:48 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: >>> I thought it was pretty clear that what Joseph has, and what I >>> commented on, is not the "nobody actually has it yet" Learner's >>> Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was >>> wrong. >> Joseph's question/comment was: >> >> <Reichman> >> Why do I have to pay so much money >> When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars >> >> And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and >> can sell software you develop >> >> If so what makes me different than an ISV >> </Reichman> >> >> So, the "why" of the difference in cost between PE and LE is precisely what >> we (or at least I) thought was under discussion. >> >> As IBM explained, PE allows development while LE does not. >> >> Sorry if I misunderstood your comment... >> >> >> -- >> Phoenix Software International >> Edward E. Jaffe >> 831 Parkview Drive North >> El Segundo, CA 90245 >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1dFvgtQOymi3DhyZx2sp6OWCdY536In-IP450SR-lSFyY9DWRvDmQ_RoVwKyYmyoOIBtkCMIaaG-bcuLW98_OAmh6Wx-ukQcJL2t5Oqg9ssvUYGdnSfSAYZNnHSicTBnWGKAioEOYkrIQzGi-JNE2ZdRsqKEHsrJSrlnrey2nJD0L3YJoz7CMRrUcUr3UzgNp8s_6V0xQpGG2LX9M5qeiDbdf76ML10n2B7mxuLss5Lz8mU8QjKz3kHRmZnveSbdvjbhEKPWrAUUk_OyGC1Rutjvr1YroCQcopQZiD1jxjZohaiJgcIn9RZ2Sa1fqYcjTOStsJ_lxaB1TDzwhxeLjodsD87EpmnrdxZ1Mlkup6yXISYojAdj1qauBAY0Tp_1UjFX6qEvxNyu1nyJ_Qdiufa_i7Q7P2v7x6CO9H-Y8KM3RKUScSbNXYY7CpeNvnPoL/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.phoenixsoftware.com%2F >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
