That's wiring that IBM provides, and if a customer monkeyed with it that would void the warranty. The board under discussion for the 407 is the customers' responsibility and most shops wired multiple boards for different purposes, e.g., 80-80 listing, specific reports.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of William Donzelli [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 6:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: my new z114 On all of my machines, and likely most of the machines IBM made, there is an interlock that prevents changing the patchboard in any way. There is a complex hinge arrangement that closes the door before any connections are made, basically. Sure, a Sawzall would solve that, but that is not provided in many CE kits. -- Will On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 2:26 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > You could theoretically add wires without removing the board. I've never seen > it done and I suspect that it's not safe. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of > Joe Monk [[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 2:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > "I've never seen a picture of one of > those wire boards being worked on and always assumed you did the work > while it was in the machine. " > > Ummm ... not possible. To reprogram a board, you had to take a special IBM > tool and push the wire up thru the bottom of the board! Kinda hard to do > when the board is in the machine :) > > Growing up, my dad had a job as an IBM CE. One of his product lines was the > 6400 accounting machine. Great fun for a kid on the weekend to play with a > plugboard and wires! > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerhistory.org%2Fcollections%2Fcatalog%2F102732361&data=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7C4bf286f7dde2412ffecb08da41c039bf%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C637894591105420400%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3lu5dsDXlwlwco%2BoFFrXMTjX3aNOJ2k8IeT2gdxk3Rk%3D&reserved=0 > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerhistory.org%2Fcollections%2Fcatalog%2F102645466&data=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7C4bf286f7dde2412ffecb08da41c039bf%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C637894591105420400%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FxINxZJYf2a2RPqRPPEnwfmD9%2F16XHhnvISyAPhhXIg%3D&reserved=0 > > Joe > > On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 12:00 PM Tom Brennan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Enzo mentioned he has a couple of ESCON cards, so he's still in the > > running. Great pic of your dad - I've never seen a picture of one of > > those wire boards being worked on and always assumed you did the work > > while it was in the machine. On a table looks a whole lot easier. > > > > On 5/29/2022 7:42 AM, Gary Eheman wrote: > > > Harry: > > > To try and squelch a bit of misinformation here since the Internet never > > forgets, Funsoft was *not* spun off from IBM. It was founded independently > > and the software and hardware engineering roots were definitely not IBM. > > > > > > Enzo can contact me concerning a FLEXCUB. No need if his z114 has no > > ESCON channels which would be a pre-req. > > > > > > A second unrelated intersection to your post relative to Columbia is a > > pic of my father: > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1gwDFZ0VlqoCEukSVnTPS9NrhjazJmj-3U1dBfEt5gk4BwjjxsNtFHIDEnYfbCzWq4Q6OKfisop3TmqYJAumPycsMTHL2v7-SzSC7MwNo-QvgScZxaXN7LYEiwN6vOmtQhyB9H-31LaxJ92ZdqRw3cCrNpzOegAplxOKzc2Ull6eTDQqz32iNU7_wmW8fALJ1dz-v8CnI1kcg3CHw1Yw7A7Ai611_X7znJqzpmV8oQZOmEPMVW7Wd2WYiCalCX7PQ-UMRIN_YSR2sMAad2aT-tbOKLc49kHsN9u0B5TnGEsGtC_Dshi_ddxNHPG8JZQwBn8Jn0BI1FEOXsYnMVBXU9aIyktJZeaqAfsiweuGZyh5zSCsOSedzWUOLuKeW7Vcp7WgGba0y7G0_BXgI5i_l5nKJMQZlv59_Dse0xZ1SADzdKzhOgauJPt1RhE2Sr-NR/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.columbia.edu%2Fcu%2Fcomputinghistory%2F407.html > > > We used the same pic when my family endowed a perpetual scholarship at > > armyscholarshipfoundation.org > > > > > > On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:50:07 +0000, Harry Wahl <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Enzo, > > >> > > >> You may want to see if you can get a FlexCub which, with its PC Escon > > card, will connect your z114 to a PC based platform and emulate every type > > of z114 peripheral you could possibly use. > > >> > > >> Using standard Escon fiber cable, the z114 Escon connects directly to a > > PC Card that is a mainframe channel adapter. Between the card's firmware > > and specific PC programs in the one PC box you will be able to emulate all > > the peripherals you will need. > > >> > > >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1VwG2tbYb1jAjg201pQkV_T2Xk4RWdRqHdSu4I5T1gmotr_54qG7oYif6WOeAFKDwfuDwo2ld5tPxHUl54b5qbjcDUnumLjKF-VB4wavk7zzYSXCUVQ9teLqJ8QsKpJjSYDS1VemU444xopkuo1o2L0vSXIDMWMzYBPkSO0ADwzsRfjl26btiGLyiTfmKdBtE9enuYYdrz2cJdiD5rQM0iEuBMgJ2atTeLlFbKOBMoUlrFBSMDGDZBrJ0cLb0seDlqaooHhB5oinuNR2XvNf7mxySklYrQAWkUvwHBpdyvIrJMNQCRPHE4GWYGTmgnmIxEkza9GU-11HlQIqRaGqty9xU7bv2asl1Q89dLdLwBt6g6JOdQti781ycKR7pTO4ezSBmSiOZgsCoDGKmCrheAZjxpahepAymhjU8ahSEadCKfPctiD14RerSHG-vFJ9f/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com > > >> go to FlexCub white paper. > > >> > > >> Fundamental Software, a.k.a. Funsoft, was spun off from IBM, > > specifically from their P/390 group. > > >> > > >> There are several other, similar vendors out there too. > > >> > > > > > > (snippage) > > > > > >> P.S.S. Also, as a professor at Columbia University in NYC, I may be > > able to get you access to Columbia's museum of IBM history, including the > > parts not open to the public. > > >> Fundamental Software, > > >> Inc.<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Wy2triybBL1OvjBx384LVSLUl_pYxF5Dnime12fZbZaQ6grGntJz7-JXAnKHTlwgAURSTIc1DyOoxtloScfekiL2psux3CPIB7ipr2v6Out5CHnskvdkThwJr5GBlD-0xGpe_AHrppdvzDlN2nDC5FFE0I7IEFCaYIn09Wj6td0hrOH9X6E4dU9PwrSZoieQitTx3-7mElLsQYD98YPxAsHu79L5zy0Rj0Vpg2QP8TJGAiRaRjuSjkZ7qhPcyj52bU2274yC8izy3vgaPGzSriCgDnTgHPTlIrAGlvtwHNNsNI22h66FtCayg0stbEBeTel6fA6W3-7FixPinGDXZ4wQXxjQUryytnw3cS-wSrqeQyb2EP4PoIlYV5Q3AYJ-X2d1xB_yAVfLcEp1RPnGlKP8mvw9Aqt6aT5M-ou0K0ATlVu1uhMWntaTk_srmPz_/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com%2F> > > >> System/390 on Intel-Based Servers > > >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1VwG2tbYb1jAjg201pQkV_T2Xk4RWdRqHdSu4I5T1gmotr_54qG7oYif6WOeAFKDwfuDwo2ld5tPxHUl54b5qbjcDUnumLjKF-VB4wavk7zzYSXCUVQ9teLqJ8QsKpJjSYDS1VemU444xopkuo1o2L0vSXIDMWMzYBPkSO0ADwzsRfjl26btiGLyiTfmKdBtE9enuYYdrz2cJdiD5rQM0iEuBMgJ2atTeLlFbKOBMoUlrFBSMDGDZBrJ0cLb0seDlqaooHhB5oinuNR2XvNf7mxySklYrQAWkUvwHBpdyvIrJMNQCRPHE4GWYGTmgnmIxEkza9GU-11HlQIqRaGqty9xU7bv2asl1Q89dLdLwBt6g6JOdQti781ycKR7pTO4ezSBmSiOZgsCoDGKmCrheAZjxpahepAymhjU8ahSEadCKfPctiD14RerSHG-vFJ9f/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > . > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
