On all of my machines, and likely most of the machines IBM made, there
is an interlock that prevents changing the patchboard in any way.
There is a complex hinge arrangement that closes the door before any
connections are made, basically. Sure, a Sawzall would solve that, but
that is not provided in many CE kits.

--
Will

On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 2:26 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You could theoretically add wires without removing the board. I've never seen 
> it done and I suspect that it's not safe.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
> Joe Monk [[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 2:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: my new z114
>
> "I've never seen a picture of one of
> those wire boards being worked on and always assumed you did the work
> while it was in the machine. "
>
> Ummm ... not possible. To reprogram a board, you had to take a special IBM
> tool and push the wire up thru the bottom of the board! Kinda hard to do
> when the board is in the machine :)
>
> Growing up, my dad had a job as an IBM CE. One of his product lines was the
> 6400 accounting machine. Great fun for a kid on the weekend to play with a
> plugboard and wires!
>
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> Joe
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 12:00 PM Tom Brennan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Enzo mentioned he has a couple of ESCON cards, so he's still in the
> > running.  Great pic of your dad - I've never seen a picture of one of
> > those wire boards being worked on and always assumed you did the work
> > while it was in the machine.  On a table looks a whole lot easier.
> >
> > On 5/29/2022 7:42 AM, Gary Eheman wrote:
> > > Harry:
> > > To try and squelch a bit of misinformation here since the Internet never
> > forgets, Funsoft was *not* spun off from IBM.  It was founded independently
> > and the software and hardware engineering roots were definitely not IBM.
> > >
> > > Enzo can contact me concerning a FLEXCUB. No need if his z114 has no
> > ESCON channels which would be a pre-req.
> > >
> > > A second unrelated intersection to your post relative to Columbia is a
> > pic of my father:  
> > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1gwDFZ0VlqoCEukSVnTPS9NrhjazJmj-3U1dBfEt5gk4BwjjxsNtFHIDEnYfbCzWq4Q6OKfisop3TmqYJAumPycsMTHL2v7-SzSC7MwNo-QvgScZxaXN7LYEiwN6vOmtQhyB9H-31LaxJ92ZdqRw3cCrNpzOegAplxOKzc2Ull6eTDQqz32iNU7_wmW8fALJ1dz-v8CnI1kcg3CHw1Yw7A7Ai611_X7znJqzpmV8oQZOmEPMVW7Wd2WYiCalCX7PQ-UMRIN_YSR2sMAad2aT-tbOKLc49kHsN9u0B5TnGEsGtC_Dshi_ddxNHPG8JZQwBn8Jn0BI1FEOXsYnMVBXU9aIyktJZeaqAfsiweuGZyh5zSCsOSedzWUOLuKeW7Vcp7WgGba0y7G0_BXgI5i_l5nKJMQZlv59_Dse0xZ1SADzdKzhOgauJPt1RhE2Sr-NR/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.columbia.edu%2Fcu%2Fcomputinghistory%2F407.html
> > > We used the same pic when my family endowed a perpetual scholarship at
> > armyscholarshipfoundation.org
> > >
> > > On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:50:07 +0000, Harry Wahl <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Enzo,
> > >>
> > >> You may want to see if you can get a FlexCub which, with its PC Escon
> > card, will connect your z114 to a PC based platform and emulate every type
> > of z114 peripheral you could possibly use.
> > >>
> > >> Using standard Escon fiber cable, the z114 Escon connects directly to a
> > PC Card that is a mainframe channel adapter. Between the card's firmware
> > and specific PC programs in the one PC box you will be able to emulate all
> > the peripherals you will need.
> > >>
> > >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1VwG2tbYb1jAjg201pQkV_T2Xk4RWdRqHdSu4I5T1gmotr_54qG7oYif6WOeAFKDwfuDwo2ld5tPxHUl54b5qbjcDUnumLjKF-VB4wavk7zzYSXCUVQ9teLqJ8QsKpJjSYDS1VemU444xopkuo1o2L0vSXIDMWMzYBPkSO0ADwzsRfjl26btiGLyiTfmKdBtE9enuYYdrz2cJdiD5rQM0iEuBMgJ2atTeLlFbKOBMoUlrFBSMDGDZBrJ0cLb0seDlqaooHhB5oinuNR2XvNf7mxySklYrQAWkUvwHBpdyvIrJMNQCRPHE4GWYGTmgnmIxEkza9GU-11HlQIqRaGqty9xU7bv2asl1Q89dLdLwBt6g6JOdQti781ycKR7pTO4ezSBmSiOZgsCoDGKmCrheAZjxpahepAymhjU8ahSEadCKfPctiD14RerSHG-vFJ9f/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com
> > >>  go to FlexCub white paper.
> > >>
> > >> Fundamental Software, a.k.a. Funsoft, was spun off from IBM,
> > specifically from their P/390 group.
> > >>
> > >> There are several other, similar vendors out there too.
> > >>
> > >
> > > (snippage)
> > >
> > >> P.S.S. Also, as a professor at Columbia University in NYC, I may be
> > able to get you access to Columbia's museum of IBM history, including the
> > parts not open to the public.
> > >> Fundamental Software, 
> > >> Inc.<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Wy2triybBL1OvjBx384LVSLUl_pYxF5Dnime12fZbZaQ6grGntJz7-JXAnKHTlwgAURSTIc1DyOoxtloScfekiL2psux3CPIB7ipr2v6Out5CHnskvdkThwJr5GBlD-0xGpe_AHrppdvzDlN2nDC5FFE0I7IEFCaYIn09Wj6td0hrOH9X6E4dU9PwrSZoieQitTx3-7mElLsQYD98YPxAsHu79L5zy0Rj0Vpg2QP8TJGAiRaRjuSjkZ7qhPcyj52bU2274yC8izy3vgaPGzSriCgDnTgHPTlIrAGlvtwHNNsNI22h66FtCayg0stbEBeTel6fA6W3-7FixPinGDXZ4wQXxjQUryytnw3cS-wSrqeQyb2EP4PoIlYV5Q3AYJ-X2d1xB_yAVfLcEp1RPnGlKP8mvw9Aqt6aT5M-ou0K0ATlVu1uhMWntaTk_srmPz_/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com%2F>
> > >> System/390 on Intel-Based Servers
> > >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1VwG2tbYb1jAjg201pQkV_T2Xk4RWdRqHdSu4I5T1gmotr_54qG7oYif6WOeAFKDwfuDwo2ld5tPxHUl54b5qbjcDUnumLjKF-VB4wavk7zzYSXCUVQ9teLqJ8QsKpJjSYDS1VemU444xopkuo1o2L0vSXIDMWMzYBPkSO0ADwzsRfjl26btiGLyiTfmKdBtE9enuYYdrz2cJdiD5rQM0iEuBMgJ2atTeLlFbKOBMoUlrFBSMDGDZBrJ0cLb0seDlqaooHhB5oinuNR2XvNf7mxySklYrQAWkUvwHBpdyvIrJMNQCRPHE4GWYGTmgnmIxEkza9GU-11HlQIqRaGqty9xU7bv2asl1Q89dLdLwBt6g6JOdQti781ycKR7pTO4ezSBmSiOZgsCoDGKmCrheAZjxpahepAymhjU8ahSEadCKfPctiD14RerSHG-vFJ9f/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com
> > >>
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