I love when people on this list think they’re know it alls and post something so stupid it’s comical. I don’t know how you came up with such asinine bullshit, but it’s impressive.***********IBM’s ROE over the years has actually been decent. 25% trailing 12 months. I suspect ROE is above most of your heads. The fact that you only present the stock price as proof of inferior returns is hilarious. As for those growth stocks, most have zero earnings, pay no dividend, and only survived based upon free money, zero interest rate policy. A couple of young bloods here were touting Fintech a few months back. I wonder what they think today? I’ve traded IBM stock around earnings but never owned it. Fintech and most high flying stocks trading on a multiple of sales have gotten crushed this year.***********This is often the problem here. People unable to understand even simple analysis. I never once said the article was full of inaccuracies. The headline was correct and so was the article itself. Although the headline was designed to get you to click. Sensationalized and just enough information but not too much.***********I’m nearly certain it will be overturned. The Sherman Antitrust Act prohibits companies from colluding to restrict competition in order to fix prices/profits. Also the federal court decision was in the southern district court of Texas, where BMC is headquartered. (Houston) Often a judge/court will rule with the hometown company. I’ve seen it before.************I also never said I was a cop. Although early on, I thought I wanted to be an FBI agent. I was in LE in college. Got a minor in it. Bachelor of Science, majoring in Comp Sci & Math. Been in IT for 40. In many capacities & 15 or so companies & consulting. Not from Timbuktu University either. And not a 2 year Tech degree for those who couldn’t hack a Bachelors degree. But, 20 years ago I thought maybe I’d give law a try. Took the LSAT, (law school admissions test) scored extremely well, and subsequently received dozens of offers from law schools all over the country. So, I think my law knowledge is a tad more than a layman's.************I don’t worship IBM. Actually, I don’t worship anyone or anything. But, the fact is, they process the majority of important transactions to this day. Not many tech companies have been around for 111 years & still going strong. You can tout Azure or AWS or whatever platform you like. My photos are on AWS. So I don’t care if it goes down twice a month. My financial & health records however are a tad more important & can’t be down. And aren’t, because they’re on a Z.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 4:30 PM, Gabe Goldberg <g...@gabegold.com> wrote: I don't have a dog in this ridiculous fight -- though I've also lived a career based on IBM mainframes, including working for IBM. I long ago sold my shares because the company was sadly heading downhill. But I'll chime in anyway. I was apparently correct because IBM shares are now at about the price where I sold, while other tech companies and the broader markets have increased greatly. I'm no more an IBM hater than zMan, just also an experienced observer over decades. Bill, are you familiar withhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect which you've greatly demonstrated? I doubt that everyone on the list would have clicked the link zMan supplied but I'm sure that after your tediously arguing with the article, everyone has clicked just to see what it's about. So if it's misinformation, you've greatly increased its distribution. Asserting infallibility in predicting outcome of litigation is silly. First, you don't have all the facts. Second, you're not qualified on the law. Third, you don't know what arguments will be made on the appeal necessary because the case has been decided. Fourth, you don't know whether the appeal will be accepted. Fifth, if it's accepted, you don't know what appeal judges will decide. You emphasize your qualifications to pontificate on esoteric legal matters because 30 years ago you were a cop and back then you were qualified to study to be a lawyer? Seriously? You accuse others of being IBM haters, while you're quite the IBM worshiper. I don't see questioning or criticizing IBM as "hating", but your reflexive defense of IBM on matters small and large really does come across as worship. Ceaselessly arguing that IBM can do no wrong makes your opinions less than credible. On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 8:54 PM Bill Johnson <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Tony thinks IBM is handing over 1.6 billion. Because the judge ordered it. > In the article it states IBM is going to appeal. Which means they don’t pay > anything, yet. Once they file a Notice of Appeal, usually within 30 days, > with documentation of why they think the trial judge was wrong, the appeals > court will decide whether the case gets heard. (Very likely) It gets > scheduled, might be a while, and the appeals court might overturn or uphold > the judgment. If upheld, IBM can appeal further. If overturned, BMC can > appeal. Meanwhile, BMC & IBM can negotiate a settlement while the appeals > play out. It could take years. No money changes hands while it plays out. > No matter what the judge said. > I was in law enforcement and was going to be a lawyer about 20 years ago. > Took the LSAT, passed with flying colors and was offered seats at a number > of law schools nationwide. -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, inc.g...@gabegold.com 3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042 (703) 204-0433 LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabegold Twitter: GabeG0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
