Hi Rene,

Rocket's Python is dead. It was effectively killed as soon as IBM released IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python. IBMs Python can be ordered on Shopz and installed as part of ServerPac or CBPDO. You can optionally install it using a pax file if you're kicking tires but almost everybody will use SMP/E. IBM releases PTFs quite frequently, usually patching security vulnerabilities and keep the Python versions bang up to date. It's a supported product with an FMID 5655-PYT. It's a bit like Java so you can pre-req it as IBM do for their products that are dependent on Python.
You can throw Golang and Node.js into the mix as well

https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_sm/t/760/ENUS5655-PYT/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en

I don't share you pessimism about the young girls and boys. All the young guys I work with are technically superb and extremely diligent.

On 22/06/2022 5:52 pm, René Jansen wrote:
Hi David,

You did that to yourself; by going off into a discussion with Charles about his use 
of Rexx and assembler. Your company website says it best: "friendly for 
programmers who lack conventional mainframe language skills” 
(https://www.rocketsoftware.com/platforms/ibm-z/python-for-zos).

However interesting this modernising is, there is no standard python 
installation on our customers’ systems. There is an IBM port and a Rocket port, 
they are different and for most mainframe personnel installing something by 
themselves is a sure way to be fired from the job. There is an enormous 
installed base of older technology and it is not going away. All the disasters 
I witness, are caused by young boys and girls that have been let loose in an 
environment that they pretend to know, with tools that react slightly 
different. All of them are grateful when shown how it is done.

Best regards,

René.

On 21 Jun 2022, at 15:35, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't want to get into another ping pong debate over REXX. Everyone knows my 
opinion by now.

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