> for most mainframe personnel installing something by themselves
> is a sure way to be fired from the job.

What happens if you ask for permission to install free downloads?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
René Jansen <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 5:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

Hi David,

You did that to yourself; by going off into a discussion with Charles about his 
use of Rexx and assembler. Your company website says it best: "friendly for 
programmers who lack conventional mainframe language skills” 
(https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rocketsoftware.com%2Fplatforms%2Fibm-z%2Fpython-for-zos&amp;data=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7C3351d7d6a5cb4746af2308da5434f588%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C637914883696343467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=8dA%2FHF2lH94rLYfUQX2AeGw2aDNbjB3Tto531%2BMngH8%3D&amp;reserved=0).

However interesting this modernising is, there is no standard python 
installation on our customers’ systems. There is an IBM port and a Rocket port, 
they are different and for most mainframe personnel installing something by 
themselves is a sure way to be fired from the job. There is an enormous 
installed base of older technology and it is not going away. All the disasters 
I witness, are caused by young boys and girls that have been let loose in an 
environment that they pretend to know, with tools that react slightly 
different. All of them are grateful when shown how it is done.

Best regards,

René.

> On 21 Jun 2022, at 15:35, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't want to get into another ping pong debate over REXX. Everyone knows 
> my opinion by now.
>

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