I'm afraid the best bet is to work with IBM VTL engineers to manually get rid 
of them.

- KB

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On Monday, April 10th, 2023 at 7:15 AM, Mark Jacobs 
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> I'm not able to answer your question but I totally sympathize. There have 
> been many times where I wanted "systems programmer mode" to be enabled where 
> the @#$!!**@#$ software would let me do what I asked, regardless of whether 
> it thought it was smarter than I am and wouldn't do what I asked for.
> 
> Mark Jacobs
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> On Sunday, April 9th, 2023 at 9:37 PM, Tom Longfellow 
> 000003e29b607131-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
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> 
> > I have a TS7700 Grid of three cluster members. In the past volumes were 
> > created for a z/OS system that no longer exists. We have hundreds of tapes 
> > in scratch (0012) and private (001F) category. So now, the data is taking 
> > up space in my newest grid member because of COPYRFSH activities.
> > 
> > What I would like to do is totally remove the existence of these volumes 
> > from the Grid. Every standard method I have found via management GUIs fails 
> > because these volumes have once left the 'INSERT' status at some time in 
> > the past. Everything that implies it might work from Z host to 'EJECT' 
> > these tapes require all the infrastructure of RMM, DEVSUP00 changes, and a 
> > Tape Volume Catalog (TVC). I do not want to rebuild an entire z/OS LPAR so 
> > that it will talk the special DEVSUP language to manipulate these tapes. 
> > Nor do I wish to add hundreds of volumes to my tape management system and 
> > TVC) just to turn around and delete them again.
> > 
> > I really need a way for this GRID to never mention these tapes in any way 
> > ever again. One of the prime directives of the TS7700 seems to be 'never 
> > delete data until you have no other choice'. For example a 'scratch' tape 
> > is still there even after the hold period expires and is still known after 
> > storage RECLAIM has happened. Those 'zombie' reclaimed volumes are 
> > preserved in perpetuity as you migrate from TS7700 to TS7700. I am trying 
> > to Stop the Madness. The 'Default' of 'We shall delete no data before its 
> > time' needs to be broken. A full mind wipe for these volumes is in order.
> > 
> > I know this defeats the 'feature' of miraculous unexpected recoveries of 
> > data that has served its purpose and been honorably discharged but reality 
> > does have to play a role here. If I say keep it for 8 days, I do not want 
> > it storing data forever and deleted by its own arcane incomprehensible 
> > rules. If it is available for miracle unexpected recoveries, there may be 
> > some security auditors interested what that equipment is up to.
> > 
> > Anybody know a fast and efficient way to accomplish this?
> > 
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