@Gil, which IBM? <g> This is a Dallas system, and it is set up the way IBM sets 
up Dallas systems, which might be a third case in addition to "defaults" and 
"recommendations." We have changed very little of that sort of thing.

@Ed, thanks, but now what? 

Using IEFJOBS to define started tasks
Last Updated: 2023-03-29

If MSTJCLxx contains a DD named IEFJOBS, the source JCL for a started task can 
be placed in one of the data sets within the IEFJOBS concatenation. Doing so 
allows jobs and the procedures they invoke to have the same name. These jobs 
can contain the minimum set of JCL needed to define the job level 
characteristics (for example, JOB statements, JCLLIB, and JECL), and then 
either invoke an existing procedure or use the INCLUDE keyword to invoke the 
desired set of JCL.

Why would I want to do that? How would that solve my problem?

Is what you are alluding to perhaps that I do not want to change SYS1.PROCLIB 
because a PTF or new release might overlay it? If so, not a problem. It's a 
Dallas system. SYS1.PROCLIB is read-only. (The magic of VM!) I would create an 
edited copy of BPXAS in a "Dallas-standard" customer proclib that is 
concatenated ahead of SYS1.PROCLIB. Or is there something else I should be 
grokking about IEFJOBS?

Charles

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:59:52 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:11:11 -0500, Charles Mills wrote:
>>
>>Okay, I confirmed that MSGCLASS=Z will make output magically disappear.
>>
>Had you been taking all IBM's defaults: SYSOUT class, disposition of that
>class, etc.?
>
>If so, IBM's design is adverse.
>
>But, "IBM's defaults are not IBM's recommendations!"  (source obscure)
>(E.g. BLKSIZE=3120)

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