Is it bad because it's slow, or some other reason(s)? -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 5:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]
> On 11 May 2023, at 6:25 am, Frank Swarbrick <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Has anyone here ever used X11 under z/OS? Yes, it sucks! I don’t see the point of in in 2023 where almost all GUI applications are browser based progressive web applications. Even IDE’s like VS Code are HTML/TypeScript and built with Electron. ChromeOS is a Linux distribution which uses Google Chrome as it’s principle UI. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 12:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols] > > Current versions of, e.g., bash, go, ooRexx, perl, python, ruby, rust, x11. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on > behalf of Farley, Peter > [[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 12:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols] > > "Install bash" is not a possibility in some shops. IBM needs to make bash > available (and supported) in ALL delivered/updated z/OS systems, as a > standard part of z/OS, so that there is no choice in the matter. Ditto for > all the other necessary GNU utilities of course. > > Again, just my USD$0.02. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Phil Smith III > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 12:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols] > > Peter Farley wrote: >> Well, if Open XL C/C++ is the "wave of the future" then IBM had >> better plan to also buy and integrate all of Rocket's GNU ports >> (especially >> bash) because I for one can NOT work in that @#$%!^ POSIX "sh" they >> supply at the moment. It is a hideous shell to try to work in. It >> does not even support using the arrow keys to recall previous >> commands, the backspace key does not work to let you fix command text >> . . . I could go on, but what's the point. It is just plain awful. > > Install bash and use that. Not disagreeing, it *is* awful. if IBM is still > serious about USS they need to spend a (relatively) SMALL amount of effort to > add standard things like bash, curl, and dos2unix. It's a huge blocker to > anyone trying to do real work there. > -- > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If > the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
