In Europe all the trucks go the same speed. The trucks all have governors. They are also all in the right lane. Explain why American roads are much more dangerous? Show me that “research”.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 7, 2023, 8:49 PM, Jay Maynard <jaymayn...@gmail.com> wrote: There's one thing you're ignoring: research shows that speed differential is more of a factor in accidents and injuries than absolute speed. A truck going 10 MPH slower than the rest of traffic is more of a hazard than a truck moving at traffic speed, even at 70 MPH. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:02 PM Bill Johnson < 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > European roads are way better than US roads. Size & speed are the 2 most > important factors in accidents. A larger/heavier vehicle traveling at a > high rate of speed takes much longer to stop than a lighter slower vehicle. > Basic physics. Wet or icy roads even longer stopping distance. That > explains why this is true. > > Most EU member states have fewer than 80 road deaths per million people > per year. Most U.S. states have more — and ten have at least double that > figure. Even Romania, the worst performer in the EU, is doing better than > almost half of all U.S. states.Jun 1, 2022 > > Profits take preference over lives. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023, 7:46 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > I'm assuming that Bill Johnson has look at statistics on deaths per > kilogram-kilometer (or deaths per ton-mile if you don't like Metric). And, > yes, there are other factors affecting that, e.g., condition of road > surface. > > Personally, I think that truck speed and truck size are independent > variables, so I would like to see a study that did a four-way comparison: > large-fast, large, slow, small-fast, small-slow. I suspect that speed is > more relevant than size, but data trump suspicions. And what about shipping > by rail or, where feasible, by boat? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 7:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises > systems > > This is off-topic, and I'll happily take it up with both Bill and Shmuel > offline if requested. But I may as well point out that "fewer deaths" may > not be as simple as they're assuming. It seems likely to me as well that > if we had smaller trucks going slower, fewer people would die in accidents > caused by bigger trucks going faster. But how many people would die > because of smaller trucks going slower? You gotta compare deaths to > deaths, not simply deaths to nothing. > > Why would people die from smaller trucks going slower? Well, a good deal > less cargo would be transported as a result, and I surmise (but it's only > surmise) that there'd be a lot more pressure on drivers, as a result, to > produce more. Some of that pressure would translate to tired drivers. And > all of it would translate to more expensive transportation, meaning that > poorer people would have increased difficulty affording the goods that are > cheaper now. > > Don't assume I'm saying that it's better as we do things now. I'm not; > I'm just saying that "this cause of death would be reduced" is no help > unless you can estimate how many deaths would also increase. And if anyone > thinks there'd be NO deaths owing to more expensive goods, I'll just shut > up. > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* A good scare is worth more than good advice. -Horace (65 BC – 8 BC) */ > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf > Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 18:45 > > For Americans here who’ve never been to Europe, trucks in Europe are much > smaller than US trucks, are required to have governors to limit their > speed, and are restricted to the right lane. The result is far fewer > traffic deaths involving trucks. > > In addition, Europeans almost never drive pickups and their automobiles > are much smaller. > > Their rates of deaths and serious injury are far less than America. > > So for you pro life people, perhaps some road restrictions would keep more > people alive. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
