It's not relevant where vi is running; what's relevant is what's on the other 
end of the pipe. If it's a 3270, real or simulated, then it's block mode, with 
all of its pluses and minuses. If it's, e.g., Telnet with a VT100 profile, then 
vi can respond to keystrokes in (almost) real time.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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On 24/8/2023 3:51 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Sure, but where are the data coming from? If it's a block-mode terminal on 
> one end of the SSH session, then you have the same issue. If it's a PC on one 
> end of the signal then it can send individual characters. The Devil is in the 
> details.
>
It's running in a Docker container on a headless server. The only
involvement of the PC is the terminal emulator which is not doing
anything special other then rendering. Vim works just as well running on
z/OS.


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>> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Still finding this hard to recreate using ISPF with edit macros
>> On a PC it's easy to examine every keystroke as it comes in
> PC? That’s running in a Linux shell over SSH. Vim doesn’t need to run on a PC 
> for full duplex. It’s a nurses application.
>
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