At Boole and Babbage, when I worked there in the early '90s,
AutoOperator came on two tapes and you installed the first tape
and it was ready to run. The second tape was the SMPE files
(copied from the SMPE environment where the first tape was made).
So the install of the first tape had REXX|CLIST support for this
so one could start a POC, or do it for real and run.
Then when you had time, you could install the second tape which
was a copy of the SMPE environment at B&B again with CLIST and
REXX to help you do that for your environment.
We sent out APARs and PTF (just like IBM did back then) and a
type of PUT|Cum tapes.
If you wanted you could just re-order the product every six
months and drop in the executables and run.
I've offered different entities where I've worked as a developer
to set this up but they declined.
For simple installs, this is fairly easy to do. Add in where one
has to do Usermods and it becomes a bit difficult.
Add in a product that has mutually exclusive components and it
becomes difficult.
Steve Thompson (got delayed in posting this, so I know it is a
bit behind, but history sometimes is useful)
On 8/24/2023 10:37 AM, Colin Paice wrote:
This week, I did my first SMP/E install since my previous one over 40 years
ago! The process hasn't changed much. It took me about half a day to
download the files and configure the jobs - making the same changes in
several jobs.
For people new to z/OS "installation" is hard to get into, understand, and
get working properly.
Has anyone thought about alternative ways of shipping products? For
example many products are now Web downloads, which you just restore.
I would like to see a DFDSS dump of the CST level of all objects and a
matching dump of the SMP/E datasets of the product.
I can just restore the product stuff,and not the SMP/E stuff, or I can
install the SMP/E stuff as well. If you want to install a fix, then apply
it to the SMP/E libraries.
In 3 months time, repeat the whole process.
I think we have to do something before all those with the knowledge and
experience retire!
Colin
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