It’s a lot easier finding JAVA developers than Assembler programmers. And will only get harder over time.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 10:37 AM, David Elliot <[email protected]> wrote: I was recently contacted by one company who was starting a project to throw out thousands of assembler language programs and replace them with JAVA code all with the aim of modernising his mainframe. The interview went badly when I asked why he thought he had to discard years of development which had kept his business going all in the name of modernization. On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 7:27 AM Bill Johnson < [email protected]> wrote: > Must have missed this. > > > > I'll be honest - it's getting smaller and smaller. It's become a niche, > > mainly for system tools ISVs. Metal C is where the invisible hand of IBM > is > > pushing the industry. > > And Ray is one of the most respected in the field. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 10:22 AM, David Elliot < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Very little from what I see. What little > there is is stupid stuff like reverse engineering code so that the client > can rewrite it in JAVA or whatever the language of the day is. > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 6:48 AM Bill Johnson < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > How much demand is there for IBM mainframe Assembler programmers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray Mullin said this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be honest - it's getting smaller and smaller. It's become a niche, > > mainly for system tools ISVs. Metal C is where the invisible hand of IBM > is > > pushing the industry. > > > > Having said that… > > > > There is a benefit to learning assembler, or more specifically, the > > z/Architecture instruction set. You learn how the instructions work, and > by > > reading the 1500+ page Principles of Operation (or, if you don't want > that > > much reading, the General Instructions and Decimal Instructions chapters, > > plus some of the first 6 others), you can design efficient 3GL programs. > In > > addition, use the LIST option of compilers to see the generated > > instructions. Through this, you can self-optimize and create efficient > > code, code that performs, and can save precious CPU and wall clock time. > > > > Look at the z390 emulator. This allows you to play with it on your own > > time on your own machine. > > > > > > You guys know who Ray Mullins is right? > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
