Exactly. The instructions, registers, etc. are not that difficult to learn. It's the macros, control blocks, subsystems, interrupts, memory layout, SVC's, (and I could go on and on) that can be the real value in doing ASM programming. If you're going to be a developer, or even installation sysprog, all that is important. Even when a C or Java or COBOL program fails, knowing how things work at the bottom can be the key to solving the issue.

I get the feeling Bill is equating ASM programming with application programming (i.e. look at the sample he supplied). Skip Robinson once told me he started as an ASM application programmer. But I'll bet he was pretty-much the last one :)

On 9/5/2023 9:36 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
My take is that Assembler is just a language and honestly I don’t think its
all that hard to learn.  What it does require is more understanding of the
OS and the ability to setup for calls to other services.

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