That’s the name in SAMPLIB, interestingly. The source is IEEACTRT, but it’s used to create IEFACTRT. Maybe it was written by console staff decades ago?
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2023, at 11:08, David Spiegel > <00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Hi Ray, > You said: "... SAMPLIB(IEEACTRT) ..." > Don't you mean SAMPLIB(SMFEXITS) //IEFACTRT? > (IEExxxxx is Console-related; IEFxxxxx is SMF-related) > > Regards, > David > >> On 2023-09-05 13:23, M. Ray Mullins wrote: >> There's a bit of context that is lost here. I purposely said "invisible >> hand", playing on the imagery. But just because that's what the owner of the >> "invisible hand" wants doesn't necessarily mean that's happening. >> >> Metal C in a JES2 environment is extremely difficult to implement, which is >> why you're now seeing the JES2 policy direction. IMHO if IBM had provided >> Metal C PROLOG/EPILOG for JES2 and z/OS exits, as well as APIs covering the >> common macros*, I think would have seen more Metal C take-up. I presented a >> few times at SHARE about converting SAMPLIB(IEEACTRT) to Metal C. I >> originally envisioned it as a "how-to", but it became instead a user >> experience, as my experience was mixed. >> >>> On 2023-09-05 09:39, Bill Johnson wrote: >>> Metal C, exactly what Mullins said is replacing assembler. In the end, my >>> contention in the beginning is proving truer by the day. And you’re right, >>> assembler isn’t that hard to learn and not hard to replace, >>> >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>> >>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:36 PM, Matt Hogstrom <m...@hogstrom.org> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> My take is that Assembler is just a language and honestly I don’t think its >>> all that hard to learn. What it does require is more understanding of the >>> OS and the ability to setup for calls to other services. >>> >>> The higher languages simply obscure, or encapsulate, those low level >>> services. >>> >>> I use Metal C for new code as it is more easily understood by developers. >>> That said, there are times for pure assembler code and I enjoy it. I >>> started out as a batch assembler programmer but I was drawn to understand >>> the OS and its structure. Assembler was the way to interface and now there >>> are other options. >>> >>> As an ISV we want Assembler programmers. In a business, I’d focus on the >>> languages that the market understands. The important thing is to not be >>> religious about a language. Its just a tool. >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 08:22 David Elliot <star2015...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Very little from what I see. What little >>>> there is is stupid stuff like reverse engineering code so that the >>>> client >>>> can rewrite it in JAVA or whatever the language of the day is. >>>> >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
