> On 14 Sep 2023, at 9:37 am, Bill Johnson 
> <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> Potential positions? Either you have positions or you don’t. Or, you have 
> positions and no applicants. Which once again proves my point.

Check our website which has all open positions. 

> Don’t waste your time learning a dying skill. As stated by Assembler expert 
> Ray Mullins. 
> 

I worked for the same company as Ray. Great guy, total respect. I’m sure if you 
asked him he would acknowledge that the huge amount of assembler code in 
mission critical products needs to be supported for decades. 

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> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 9:00 PM, David Crayford 
> <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We’ve got loads of potential positions for good HLASM programmers. Send me 
> your resume if you’re interested. 
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2023, at 4:23 am, Dean Kent <drke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't want to get into the firefight... however, the commentary here 
>> encouraged me to do so.
>> 
>> My own belief (whether founded or not) is that if you follow your passion 
>> and become good at it, someone will recognize that and feel it is valuable 
>> enough to pay for it.  I also believe that specialists tend to demand a 
>> higher rate than generalists. Assembler is a specialty, and while there may 
>> not be a lot of demand, the ones who do require it will pay.
>> 
>> I compare it to, for example, I have some classic vehicles with carburetors. 
>>  Not too many mechanics work on carburetors any more - but those who do have 
>> a lot of work.  Fine craftsmen may not be in huge demand due to the 
>> 'production line' manufacturing of most furniture - but those who do it make 
>> good money and have plenty of work.    People who specialize in repairing 
>> antique clocks, pottery, rugs, etc. may not be able to get a job anywhere - 
>> but if they are good at it, they have plenty of business.
>> 
>> As long as the mainframe runs legacy code, there will be a need for 
>> assembler programmers.  That's my opinion, at least.
>> 
>> On 9/13/2023 8:52 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
>>> I've long observed that no matter what your employer hired you for, what 
>>> you turn out to be good at is what they use you for.  At one location I was 
>>> the only one who bothered to figure out what was wrong with the big 
>>> greenbar printer when it went haywire; before I left, therefore, I was the 
>>> one folks came to when it misbehaved, and I was the one ordering supplies 
>>> for it.  At another place my boss remarked, during an annual review, that 
>>> "we gotta get you on some of these team projects; we keep using you as the 
>>> lone fire-fighter for odd problems, but team projects will look good an 
>>> your resume".  I nodded enthusiastically and agreed aloud, but the fact is 
>>> I ~liked~ being the guy in the corner who did the odd jobs, figuring out 
>>> the software that no one else had time for.
>>> 
>>> I always recommend to young folks that they keep on doing what they're 
>>> interested in doing.  Obviously this doesn't mean neglecting assigned tasks 
>>> that sound boring; if I don't do what my boss wants me to do then I'm 
>>> useless to him.  But eventually he'll discover that he wants me to do some 
>>> of the things I'm especially good at too.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>>> 
>>> /* The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a 
>>> little way past them into the impossible.  -[Arthur C] Clarke's 2nd law. */
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
>>> Arthur Fichtl
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 04:18
>>> 
>>> As a now retired freelance z/OS guy  based in Munich/Germany I had to find 
>>> a market niche at my employer. Therefore I specialized on debugging, 
>>> analysis of dumps and the like. For those tasks HLASM was inevitable.
>>> 
>>> My colleagues preferred more comfortable tasks and languages and therefore 
>>> I for myself had a quite secure job.
>>> 
>>> And I liked it. My 1st language was the Siemens 4004 Assembler with punch 
>>> cards as the user interface. Quite funny.
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