Not all actors are paid that way every time, and I would venture to say only a 
very few make millions up front.  Even some usually highly-paid actors 
sometimes take a much smaller salary during filming in order to get larger 
royalties on the “back end” if they think the film will be a really big 
success.  But they usually also have accountants to keep track of the “back 
end” to be sure they are getting what was promised.  Lawsuits have been filed 
when film companies and/or distributors try to fudge the “back end” to keep 
more of the profits for themselves.  The devil is ALWAYS in the details.

But I agree that programmers, by and large, are not usually in a position to 
create something unique enough to be considered intellectual property per se, 
particularly application-level programmers.  By comparison to the discussion 
about actors, we take everything up front with nothing on the “back end”.

Peter

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Doug Fuerst
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 3:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Assembler programmer wanted


Just an observation.



Actors are paid for their work as well. Many are paid millions to make a

film. Why do they then get a cut from every viewing of the film?

They were paid. Quite well. But they get a cut forever.



Just does not seem fair, or equitable.



Doug Fuerst





------ Original Message ------

From "Radoslaw Skorupka"

<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

To [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Date 12/6/2023 15:11:57 PM

Subject Re: Assembler programmer wanted



>W dniu 05.12.2023 o 19:31, Harry Wahl pisze:

>>I have designed and written many things. The vast majority of which entitles 
>>me to no royalties or commissions. This is because any competent practitioner 
>>could have created the same (or similar) thing.

>

>That's how application programmers work. They are paid for their job.

>Not only IT - the same apply to any engineers designing new buildings, 
>bridges, machines, engines, etc.

>

>>However, there are a very few things I have designed or written that merited 
>>recognition as "intellectual property" and subsequently worth significant, 
>>special, negotiated compensation. Very significant.

>

>Yes and no. Even your very significant thing you designed can be sold. It can 
>be expensive, but it is subject of trade.

>Last, but not least: You can sell anything you created, like (fictitious case) 
>Edison who sold his light bulb. But maybe the contract was signed a priori - 
>you work for Edison firm, developing the source of light.

>

>

>Something to keep the discussion on topic somehow related to IBM-MAIN:

>Last two weeks I've got a lot of job offerings for assembler coding position. 
>I don't know the company, but headhunters said the job office is located in 
>Warsaw (although most of the time the job is remote).

>I don't know how much do they pay, because I gently refused. However other job 
>proposals in EU (mainframe) are usually at 40-60 €/hour level. What's not 
>funny, the companies located in Poland pay less than foreign ones. Fortunately 
>nowadays neither remote job is a problem, nor EU borders are.

>

>-- Radoslaw Skorupka

>Lodz, Poland

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