There used to be a low level bock processor used by paging and VSAM, operating on CI formatted data via STARTIO. I would guess that if it still exists then Fetch uses it for program objects.
For load modules it would still be CCWs, probably via STARTIO. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 11:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries (PDSE format)? On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 21:48, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > Unless IBM has enhanced z/OS to allow EXEC PGM=path, I wouldn't expect a > program object in DSFS to work. > > STEPLIB is a general facility, unrelated to HLASM. I think he was referring to HLASM's use of directories for maclibs. > It's essentially a tasklib provided by the Initiator and doesn't depend on > any access method. > Surely it's not using CCWs against PDSEs? FAMS...? Tony H. > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of Paul Gilmartin <0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 9:17 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries > (PDSE format)? > > On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:38:23 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > >The issue on STEPLIB is simply that IBM doesn't see a business case to > support it. Part of that support would be an update to APF and program > control for paths. Would you want individual executables in STEPLIB, or > only directories? RFE? > > > Directories. Similar to the facilities provided for Assembler STEPLIB. I > suspect > much of the accommodation was in access methods, not in HLASM. > > Can a program object in a DSFS be used equally by shell as an executable > and by JCL EXEC PGM=? > > Does it receive a UNIX-like argc, argv[], envp[] or a CALL R1 plist, or > it depends? > > Where's the DSFS User's Guide to answer such questions? > > >________________________________________ > >From: Paul Gilmartin > >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 1:57 PM > > > >But UNIX program objects are "really files". "cp -p" works on then. > > > >But content Supervision relies heavily on the elaborate format. Part > >of the reason that UNIX directories don't work in STEPLIB > >concatenation. (Idea?) > > -- > gil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
