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Probably other CBT tape members to process. On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 7:11 PM Rupert Reynolds <rreyno...@cix.co.uk> wrote: > > SMF logging of data for management information? I never did much with SMF, > but I can't see why not. > > I did briefly consider being able to parse existing mapping macros, but > that's bound to be a bigger job than it seems, especially now I'm a bit > rusty and only have Hercules to play with. > > Structures (maybe 'map' because 'str' is already short for the most basic > type of 'string'). And pointers to them, yes. Wouldn't be without them :-) > > I'll probably be old and slow, or losing my concentration, before it's even > half finished. Still, it keeps me out of mischief when I'm not at work or > converting the van for mobile glamping :-) > > Roops > > On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, 18:31 Seymour J Metz, <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > I probably would use ":=" for assignment and "=" for equality. > > > > Are you supporting SMF-like structures? > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > > of Rupert Reynolds <rreyno...@cix.co.uk> > > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2024 2:08 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Hmm, 3 ... (Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation > > question > > > > It's too soon to publish much, especially when I have a full time job doing > > something else. To be honest I probably never will, because it only suits > > my pet bigotries :-) > > > > But briefly, I looked at day 1 notes (on back of a gas bill). They included > > these, not all of which will ever make it into use of course: > > > > . fairly terse {} syntax, borrowing from 'C' etc. > > > > . strongly typed by default > > > > . one type is bignum--arbitrary precision and base arithmetic, trig, logs > > > > . correctness and flexibility more important than speed (like external > > functions in Rexx scripts, for example) > > > > . project to include thorough test cases, and any bugs/unintended quirks in > > either impl or tests will be fixed ruthlessly, not supported. If it fails > > the test, it is not the real thing. > > > > . compiled code could include interpreter for scripting > > > > . preserves case, but keywords and functions etc. not case sensitive > > > > . all keywords can be abbreviated (eg. if min abbreviation is 3, 'fun' is > > same as 'function') > > > > . '=' not required for assignment! > > > > . ability to convert 'C' style strings and call 'C' code > > > > . all built-in functions for handling null-terminated data and UTF-16 to be > > prefixed gk_ (short for "ghastly kludge" ;-) ) > > > > Feel free to laugh/crjticise, but please be kind--I was drinking during > > lockdown when I finished that list :-) > > > > I made some progress on the bignum logarithms and trig early, borrowing > > heavily on the external Rexx functions I used under Windows. > > > > It does basics such as finding and moving files interpreted, so I can use > > it to test my Rexx admin scripts, and vice versa, but there are *huge* > > gaps, and I'm moving house this year, so... :-) > > > > Roops > > > > > > On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, 16:58 Seymour J Metz, <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > I'm developing a language > > > > > > Have you published any details? > > > > > > -- > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > > > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > > > of Rupert Reynolds <rreyno...@cix.co.uk> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 9:07 AM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Hmm, 3 ... (Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation > > > question > > > > > > My experience of modern scripting languages, compared with classic Rexx, > > is > > > that they all do something new more easily, but also I can't think of one > > > that doesn't have an obvious pitfall (such as, for example, stumbling > > badly > > > over certain byte values such as NUL in strings). > > > > > > Classic Rexx under TSO and Regina Rexx under Windows and Linux, despite > > > certain old-fashioned quirks, are still sometimes what I reach for when I > > > want to process some data while avoiding those pitfalls. > > > > > > The differences are so strong to me that I'm developing a language which > > is > > > effectively the best bits (IMHO) of Rexx, C and even older languages such > > > as Algol 68 (much underrated in my book) and hints of PL/1. I don't make > > > that much effort without reason :-) > > > > > > By definition it works the same interpreted or compiled, which brings a > > > couple of restrictions I'm willing to live with :-) > > > > > > Roops > > > p.s. I'm not convinced that that familiarity is a reason to criticise > > > choosing a language. Using something you know well is often a way of > > giving > > > bettet value and reliability for ones employers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, 11:49 David Crayford, < > > > 00000595a051454b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Rony, > > > > > > > > From what I understand, you haven't had experience working on z/OS. > > Let's > > > > stick to the topic and focus on discussing REXX as it functions on > > z/OS. > > > > This means no discussions about ooRexx or Java bridges, as they don't > > > exist > > > > and are unlikely to in the future on z/OS. > > > > > > > > The majority of REXX programmers here utilize classic TSO REXX and > > > > primarily work within a TSO/ISPF environment. In this setup, REXX > > lacks a > > > > module system. Therefore, any routines or libraries need to be manually > > > > copied and pasted wherever they're needed, or you have to create a > > > > pre-processor to merge source files together. If your language lacks > > the > > > > fundamental basic features to sort an array then to me that’s a good > > > > indication you should use one that does. > > > > > > > > I'm not spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD). I'm simply > > stating > > > > my observations based on over 30 years of using REXX on z/OS, including > > > > developing extensions. I believe this gives me a significant level of > > > > expertise to offer commentary on the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
