Dave,

did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything
different ?
Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ?

Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any difference ?

Best regards.
Max

Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 14:54 Styles, Andy (CIO GS&S - Core
Infrastructure & IT Operations ) <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

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> Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so,
> does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?
>
> Andy Styles
> z/Series Systems Programmer
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> There is, but same for all lpars involved.
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> Dave Jousma
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Joe Monk <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:
> 03 AM Jousma, David < 000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu>
> wrote: > Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes
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> Is there a firewall or switch in the path?
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> Joe
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> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <
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> > Joe,
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> > I had not, just did, worse yet
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> > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27
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> > KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
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> > EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65
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> > KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
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> > EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23
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> > KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec
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> > Dave Jousma
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> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on
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> > of Joe Monk <[email protected]>
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> > Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
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> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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> > Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
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> > Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024
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> > 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
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> > edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is
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> > baffled too. >
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> > Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?
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> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
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> > > All,
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> > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
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> > > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a
> > > DFDSS
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> > > dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
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> >
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> > > transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file
> > > transfers
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> > to
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> >
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> > > some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to
> > > other
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> > > systems on the same CEC.    With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down
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> > the
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> >
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> > > problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer
> > > since
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> > it
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> >
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> > > is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
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> > > systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
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> > > solution though.
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> > > So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers
> are
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> > > to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are
> > > to
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> > the
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> > > traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference,
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> > > does LPAR busy or not busy.
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> > > It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow”
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> > > that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of
> > > me,
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> > I
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> > > cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except
> > > that the
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> > > issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data
> > > fast
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> > > enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
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> > > A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
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