David,

far from me the idea XMIT would have solved.
It's a try to understand if problem is related to the FTP server or client.
:D

Regards.
Max

Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 15:11 David Spiegel <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Hi Max,
> XMIT??? ... They would probably exceed some limit long before the
> transmission begins.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 2024-03-28 09:57, Massimo Biancucci wrote:
> >   Dave,
> >
> > did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything
> > different ?
> > Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ?
> >
> > Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any
> difference ?
> >
> > Best regards.
> > Max
> >
> > Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 14:54 Styles, Andy (CIO GS&S - Core
> > Infrastructure & IT Operations ) <
> > [email protected]> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Classification: Public
> >>
> >> Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so,
> >> does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
> >> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?
> >>
> >> Andy Styles
> >> z/Series Systems Programmer
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM
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> >> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
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> >> There is, but same for all lpars involved.
> >>
> >> Dave Jousma
> >> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on
> behalf
> >> of Joe Monk <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> >> Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at
> 8:
> >> 03 AM Jousma, David < 000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
> edu>
> >> wrote: > Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400
> bytes
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there a firewall or switch in the path?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <
> >>
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Joe,
> >>> I had not, just did, worse yet
> >>> EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27
> >>> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
> >>> EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65
> >>> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
> >>> EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23
> >>> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec
> >>> Dave Jousma
> >>> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on
> >>> behalf
> >>> of Joe Monk <[email protected]>
> >>> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> >>> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024
> >>> at
> >>> 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
> >>> edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is
> >>> baffled too. >
> >>> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?
> >>> Joe
> >>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> All,
> >>>> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
> >>>> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a
> >>>> DFDSS
> >>>> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
> >>>> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file
> >>>> transfers
> >>> to
> >>>> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to
> >>>> other
> >>>> systems on the same CEC.    With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down
> >>> the
> >>>> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer
> >>>> since
> >>> it
> >>>> is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
> >>>> systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
> >>>> solution though.
> >>>> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers
> >> are
> >>
> >>>> to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are
> >>>> to
> >>> the
> >>>> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no
> difference,
> >>> nor
> >>>> does LPAR busy or not busy.
> >>>> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow”
> >>>> systems
> >>>> that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of
> >>>> me,
> >>> I
> >>>> cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except
> >>>> that the
> >>>> issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data
> >>>> fast
> >>>> enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
> >>>> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
> >>>> direction to look….
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