On 5/21/13, Scott Ford <[email protected]> wrote: > Gil, > > You have your opinion and I have mine. Lets leave it at that. > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > from my IPAD > > 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > > > On May 21, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 01:03:33 -0400, Scott Ford wrote: >>> >>> First of all, been around a block a few thousand times..it's >>> irresponsible from the standpoint of publishing how to do it. I wouldn't >>> do this or even consider doing it ...but that's me >> WTF!? If there were a real threat it would be discussed by now in >> responsible channels such as US-CERT or DoHS or IBM integrity >> APARs. Has there been any such notification? (Of course, IBM >> wouldn't discuss it -- you'd have to open an SR and be told, "Known >> issue; please don't tell any one else.") >> >> Walt Farrell has said here in this thread that the technique doesn't >> enable a programmer to do anything he couldn't do directly in the >> batch job. I trust his expertise; nor do I believe he's throwing up a >> smoke screen (though I suspect him of doing so on a different >> topic three years ago). >> >> An analogous situation: Two weeks ago it was discussed here that >> when system administrators rely on the IKJEFF10 exit to enforce >> rules about batch jobs, it's ineffective; IKJEFF10 is not entered >> for jobs submitted via SYSOUT=(,INTRDR) and perhaps other >> channels. I consider this a due caution to system administrators >> that they should not be depending on a flawed technique. Do you, >> in contrast, deem it "irresponsible from the standpoint of publishing >> how to do it"? >> >> And, e.g., even IBM's very open discussion of APAR OA30897 (GIYF) >> contains enough information that it it is implicitly "publishing how >> to do it". I consider IBM's action in this matter highly responsible. >> >>> Scott ford >>> www.identityforge.com >> Please don't forge my identity. >> >> -- gil >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >
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