True, and sometimes necessary, and a lot of the same dump-reading skills apply 
along with more-than-average knowledge of system architecture and control block 
structures.  And they are a LOT bigger and thus take a wee bit longer to search.

The information is available, just not as conveniently as when one has IPCS 
available.

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

On 5/22/2013 10:10 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
> Unfortunately not every shop makes IPCS available to application programmers. 
>  Some of us are stuck with just two choices - commercial abend analyzer 
> selected by bean counters or read the SYSUDUMP yourself.

What about SYSABEND? ISTR that has SYSTRACE, RTM2WA, TCB, RB chains, etc.
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