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Re delete/reallocate is true. Jes closes the proclibs between uses

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Urban legend or false memory.  But in the early 1980s, I was told that if you 
started a proc that did not exist, JES2 would open and close each proclib in 
the concatenation.  In fact, I was told, and if I remember correctly, I was 
able to backup a proclib that ran out of directory blocks, delete the library, 
re-allocate the library, restore the library, issue a start on a non-existent 
proc, and all was good.




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On Wednesday, June 12th, 2024 at 8:12 AM, Lennie Bradshaw 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> As far as I know JES2 holds proclibs open normally. There may be a way to get 
> it to close and re-open them.
> JES2 runs with the NDSI bit set in the PPT. Hence it does not issue ENQs for 
> any datasets it allocates.
> Lennie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] On Behalf
> Of Paul Gilmartin
>
> Sent: 12 June 2024 12:59
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: PDS compress and PROCLIB
>
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:55:56 +0000, Lennie Bradshaw wrote:
>
> > I believe JES2 read the proclibs without data integrity (i.e. no ENQs are 
> > issued for the libraries). ...
>
> Why!? Is PDSE a solution? IEB COPY with DISP=SHR?
>
> We had a developer-facing local PROCLIB catenand. I routinely updated a 
> member in background using ISPF EDIT ENQs.
> Once I found another developer's content in "my" member. She had courteously 
> signed it. She explained that she had updated her member from a test system 
> sharing DASD. Admin explained that MIM had crashed on that system at that 
> time.
>
> MIM isn't fail-safe. But the price of fail-safe might be inability to IPL 
> before MIM activates.
>
> --
> gil
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